RolanK wrote:Mr. Boh wrote:its fun to participate on a message board again
i do not like nerds
i like finding out about music
The duality of the 3DD thing.
I like Blondie:
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RolanK wrote:Mr. Boh wrote:its fun to participate on a message board again
i do not like nerds
i like finding out about music
The duality of the 3DD thing.
Kudzu Guillotine wrote:I thought I'd heard it all when an Army Sergeant got killed over playing "Margaritaville" on a jukebox in 2009. At least no one died in this incident.
Woman punches DJ, destroys equipment over song selections
It's the same visceral reaction thing I was talking about with Primer Coat. Some songs (musically) grab you by the nuts and don't let go, then you figure out the lyrics later. That's how I got so hooked on that Moondoggies record. I've listened to that record on repeat for weeks, and I still don't know half the lyrics. It's the music that moves mebeantownbubba wrote:So a new album by DBT comes out and I listen as close as I possibly can, play songs over and over in part to get the lyrics, trade possible lyric "interpretations" w/ other fans here, etc etc. At some point I reach a conclusion, which in the case of EO is that I love it. Then I throw on a new record by Lee Bains III and I love it immediately, before the first song is over. I still haven't deciphered a word besides the occasional phrase from a chorus here and there. How does that work?
LBIII is more about the pure primal energy of rock-music, I guess. I had the same experience with his debut album as well. Just loved the album and played it to death. But it took a long time before I started taking notice of the lyrics. Actually wasn't until I got my hands on the purple vinyl with the lyrics sheet inlay before I really sat down and contemplated over them. And I found he write some pretty interesting lyrics. I get the impression he puts a lot effort into the lyrics side as well. So, I expect the same thing from the new album as well.beantownbubba wrote:So a new album by DBT comes out and I listen as close as I possibly can, play songs over and over in part to get the lyrics, trade possible lyric "interpretations" w/ other fans here, etc etc. At some point I reach a conclusion, which in the case of EO is that I love it. Then I throw on a new record by Lee Bains III and I love it immediately, before the first song is over. I still haven't deciphered a word besides the occasional phrase from a chorus here and there. How does that work?
I think I understand this phenomenon pretty well and I liken it to dating. You've been going steady with DBT for a long time now, you know you like them but that initial fire that you had at first still burns but it's not singing your whiskers anymore instead it's always there and short of tidal wave washing over it that flame isn't going out so you look closer than you ever have and keep falling in love by finding details. Things they have that you haven't noticed, that Cooley can really turn a phrase and as he gets older those phrases may hit closer to home. Damn that Patterson keeps getting better and look the new guy on bass kicks some ass, that's new and Jay, well what WTF dude who knew you could do THAT?? Every new thing makes you dig the band more. Now with Lee Bains III & the Glory Fires this record is pretty much your second date. Damn they're hot! Lyrics? who gives a fuck about lyrics the guitar playing is incendiary, incendiary. Holy crap, this is kinda punk I was young once, hell I remember that now. OMG I'm three songs in and I don't know what they're saying but I'm smiling. Next record? Who gives a shit we're only on number two motherfuckers! Now you remember that sometimes you LIKE getting your whiskers singed!beantownbubba wrote:So a new album by DBT comes out and I listen as close as I possibly can, play songs over and over in part to get the lyrics, trade possible lyric "interpretations" w/ other fans here, etc etc. At some point I reach a conclusion, which in the case of EO is that I love it. Then I throw on a new record by Lee Bains III and I love it immediately, before the first song is over. I still haven't deciphered a word besides the occasional phrase from a chorus here and there. How does that work?
No question that can happen. Usually though if I love a band live and I love the album right away it usually ends up being a favorite.Kudzu Guillotine wrote:I haven't heard the record yet but the only danger with liking an album so much right away is that sometimes those sort of records don't have the staying power of albums that have to grow on you. I'm interested in finding out for myself as I know there are exceptions to the rule.
Nicely said.Tequila Cowboy wrote:I think I understand this phenomenon pretty well and I liken it to dating. You've been going steady with DBT for a long time now, you know you like them but that initial fire that you had at first still burns but it's not singing your whiskers anymore instead it's always there and short of tidal wave washing over it that flame isn't going out so you look closer than you ever have and keep falling in love by finding details. Things they have that you haven't noticed, that Cooley can really turn a phrase and as he gets older those phrases may hit closer to home. Damn that Patterson keeps getting better and look the new guy on bass kicks some ass, that's new and Jay, well what WTF dude who knew you could do THAT?? Every new thing makes you dig the band more. Now with Lee Bains III & the Glory Fires this record is pretty much your second date. Damn they're hot! Lyrics? who gives a fuck about lyrics the guitar playing is incendiary, incendiary. Holy crap, this is kinda punk I was young once, hell I remember that now. OMG I'm three songs in and I don't know what they're saying but I'm smiling. Next record? Who gives a shit we're only on number two motherfuckers! Now you remember that sometimes you LIKE getting your whiskers singed!beantownbubba wrote:So a new album by DBT comes out and I listen as close as I possibly can, play songs over and over in part to get the lyrics, trade possible lyric "interpretations" w/ other fans here, etc etc. At some point I reach a conclusion, which in the case of EO is that I love it. Then I throw on a new record by Lee Bains III and I love it immediately, before the first song is over. I still haven't deciphered a word besides the occasional phrase from a chorus here and there. How does that work?
radiohead was a huge example of nostalgias impact on my decisions. i tried to be fair and go with true favorites, but sometimes memories can be impossible to separate. in rainbows was everything to me when it came out. we're talking legitimately all i wanted to listen to for a very long time. i could probably count on one hand how many albums ive fallen that hard that fast for. it wasnt the first id heard of them (in fact i think id heard it all at that point) but to me it felt like the perfect sumamry of what they did well. ok computer impressed me immediately but in rainbows totally blew me away.not quite sure what it was, but i always thought it played like a greatest hits album of new material. i dont have much time for radiohead anymore, but i still play in rainbows a lot, and okc/the bends a bit less. ive long considered the bends my actual favorite, but i had a hard time not going with in rainbows on this. plus i got to see them on that tour. theyve lost me in recent years so im glad i got to check them off the last on the heels of a record i lovedbeantownbubba wrote: There's no point in arguing your choice of album from a particular artist though there are a number I disagree with. Just as an example, I think Radiohead is the most egregious example of that. Nor is there any point in arguing fine distinctions of a few places in the rankings here and there. The only ranking I want to question is Every Picture Tells A Story which to me is off by somewhere around 100 places, which is a lot. Most important, I think a list like this has to be taken on its own terms, i.e. it represents those types of music that matter to you so arguing that other genres are unrepresented doesn't make sense.
here we get into personal stuff. i dont like springsteen much at all. sorry. tried, cant do it. i can kinda dig a bit nebraska, but it would be a long, long list before id even consider putting it in there. the clash i do like, but ive always respected them more than genuinely enjoyed them. i considered the s/t (which i like more than london calling) but there were a ton of other punk albums that i like more, or were more important to me, or both. its not like i had a limit on the number of punk albums, but by the time i included the ones i genuinely loved, there was no room for the clash. probably a case of missed opportunities. i got into punk a bit late, and i think discovering the clash a few years before i did would have changed things. if i were making an objective list of the best 200 albums, id have to throw bruce and the clash in there, but wheres the fun in objectivity?OTOH i do think it's fair to argue that a top 200 list w/out anything from springsteen or the clash or jimi hendrix is flawed (it's a long list, i apologize if i missed listings for any of those).
another part of my method i didnt mention was that that initial list of 200+ albums was compiled by scanning through my cd collection, which has neither johnny or hank. it should, but it doesnt. i have some cash vinyl, but nothing thats made enough of an impression on me to truly rank. i guess overall i really only know him through scattered songs, so there wasnt an album of his i could have included even if i wanted to. hank im shamefully underaware of. its on my list to correct. lots of old country guys and gals i need to discover.I'm not sure how tammy wynette makes the list but, say, johnny cash or hank williams don't.
i do own this album, but havent listened. it was a super cheap thrift store pickup a while ago that just never rose high enough on my interest level to give it a spin. ill get on that now though. i guess my main power pop representatives were weezer (who ill get into in a second) big star (who i would legitimately credit with saving my life in some ways) and the exploding hearts (a record i cannot recommend enough. on the surface it seems like clash aping bratty punk rock, but its some of the most joyous and fun sloppy rock and roll ive ever heard. spare 29 minutes and give it a listen) but its still a genre im exploring.I appreciate that you made more than a nod to power pop, but I don't know how you do that w/out Matthew Sweet's Girlfriend.
this i also considered, and very nearly went with that exact album. truth be told, soul is a genre in which i still have a ton of work to do, so i only included the stuff thats really impressed me most in the genre. i never loved a man is a classic though, no doubt about itI think you did well by soul, a genre notorious for not being album friendly, but having said that, not only does Aretha belong on the list on a talent basis, I think most people would consider I Never Loved A Man... to be one of the great albums of the genre and worthy of inclusion on your list.
this is almost certainly an age thing. im 24 so all of these bands line up perfectly with my music discovery process. weezer was the first band i ever loved, and theyre one of the best bands to discover around 8th/9th grade, modest mouse soundtracked high school and college for me, and continues to hit me really hard from time to time, and spoon has been as reliable as anyone out there recently. tons of nostalgia involved in all three of those bandsBut the biggest eye opener for me is that I take it as a given that the top 50 of a top 200 list would be absolutely positively gold plated and even if one would come up w/ 10 or even 50 different choices, one should be able to understand someone else's choices. But i find way too many at the top of the list that I'm not familiar with (my problem, not yours) and way too many that wouldn't be in my top 200, e.g. Weezer, Modest Mouse and Spoon.
i can see him being a love or hate artist. i actually cant recall ever seeing him come up on this board, but surely someone digs him. i enjoy most of his stuff ut the s/t is one of those haunting acoustic albums ill always have time for. pretty pissed i forgot itps Personally, I didn't miss elliott smith at all
id actually be interested in knowing some of the ones people arent aware of. i think ive got a fair amount of nuggets in my collection but nothing compared to some people (if you think my list has some obscure stuff, you should see some others on the board i made it for)linkous wrote:That's one hell of an eclectic list Shakespeare, kudos to you. I suspect somehow that after his comments the albums that Beantown hasn't heard I will have, and vice versa
favorite band. i even did an AOTW on them last year. picking one sfa album was the toughest one on there for me. guerilla might not be my favorite (its either that, radiator or phantom pwoer) but i had to pick it for the impact it had on me when i first heard it. id never heard a band as all over the place as they are on that album. really made an impression on meYou're obviously a big Gruff Rhys fan, I counted at least three albums he's been involved with in various guises. I love SFA and wish they would release something soon.
this was tough, for sure. could have easily gone either way. both would be near the top if id allowed multiple per artistI was going down the list, and the closer I got to the end was thinking to myself "He's not got any Afghan Whigs, Idon't believe it !!", but there it was at No19. I might have picked Gentlemen just because of the impact it had on me when I first heard it all those years ago, but that's just splitting hairs. Black Love is great in it's own right.
give it time and theyll work their way up the list. its already an album that makes me wish i played it more every time i revisit. almost went with hex, for the classical, but i prefer saving grace a tad overall.My only gripe, if you want to call it that, is that No 171 on your list should obviously be top 10!!!
Yeah I've got American Interior coming through the mail this week, should arrive tomorrow. Gave it a few listens on Spotify, like it a lot so far.Shakespeare wrote:id actually be interested in knowing some of the ones people arent aware of. i think ive got a fair amount of nuggets in my collection but nothing compared to some people (if you think my list has some obscure stuff, you should see some others on the board i made it for)linkous wrote:That's one hell of an eclectic list Shakespeare, kudos to you. I suspect somehow that after his comments the albums that Beantown hasn't heard I will have, and vice versa
favorite band. i even did an AOTW on them last year. picking one sfa album was the toughest one on there for me. guerilla might not be my favorite (its either that, radiator or phantom pwoer) but i had to pick it for the impact it had on me when i first heard it. id never heard a band as all over the place as they are on that album. really made an impression on meYou're obviously a big Gruff Rhys fan, I counted at least three albums he's been involved with in various guises. I love SFA and wish they would release something soon.
dunno if youre into gruffs solo work but hes got an album out this week actually. his solo stuff doesnt quite stand up to sfa, so i also hope they return asap, but ill always take new songs from him.
this was tough, for sure. could have easily gone either way. both would be near the top if id allowed multiple per artistI was going down the list, and the closer I got to the end was thinking to myself "He's not got any Afghan Whigs, Idon't believe it !!", but there it was at No19. I might have picked Gentlemen just because of the impact it had on me when I first heard it all those years ago, but that's just splitting hairs. Black Love is great in it's own right.
give it time and theyll work their way up the list. its already an album that makes me wish i played it more every time i revisit. almost went with hex, for the classical, but i prefer saving grace a tad overall.My only gripe, if you want to call it that, is that No 171 on your list should obviously be top 10!!!
Can't argue w/ this. It's been discussed on the board numerous times as a huge factor overall in the "why we like what we like" phenomenon. But glad we agree on which are the actual best radiohead albums.Shakespeare wrote:radiohead was a huge example of nostalgias impact on my decisions.
I think what we have here is a failure to communicate, my fault. I revised that sentence and managed to make it less clear along the way lol. I meant Every Picture was 100 ranks too low At first I thought you were saying you liked the previous Stewart albums more (which is legit, too, though I'd still pick Every Picture first) but they're not on the list so I think I've now straightened this out.Shakespeare wrote:not quite sure what i dig so much about early rod solo stuff, but i love it.
To give you credit you've also got teenage fanclub on your list. I agree w/ you that exploding hearts is a great record. Probably in my top 10 power pop, especially if we're limiting it to 1 per artist. Again, I won't quibble about placement and it's a great record. Let us know what you think of Girlfriend when you get around to it.Shakespeare wrote:i guess my main power pop representatives were weezer (who ill get into in a second) big star (who i would legitimately credit with saving my life in some ways) and the exploding hearts (a record i cannot recommend enough. on the surface it seems like clash aping bratty punk rock, but its some of the most joyous and fun sloppy rock and roll ive ever heard. spare 29 minutes and give it a listen) but its still a genre im exploring.
LOL, I had this exact thought when I was writing that (about you) and it makes me think that I was setting my over/under unrealistically low from the start, but I'm still surprised.linkous wrote:I suspect somehow that after his comments the albums that Beantown hasn't heard I will have, and vice versa
100 Favorite Albums
I just rattled off some favorites without putting too much thought into it (well, at least until I reached the 50 mark). I tried to limit it to one album per artist for more variety (though there are a few exceptions) when I very well could have included huge chunks of individual artists' catalogs. I also tried to keep it to proper albums though there's several notable exceptions to that as well. That's just the criteria I used for myself, if you'd like to take part feel free to list compilations, EP's, live albums, etc. Even at 100 albums I still managed to leave out the Band, the Who, Jackson Browne, Nada Surf and countless others I would have included had I put my mind to it. Also, you don't have to create a Note to participate but I found it helpful because the numbered list feature makes it easier to keep track. Tag whoever you think might be interested in listing 100 of their favorite records.
Beatles Hey Jude
Whiskeytown Strangers Almanac
Flying Burrito Brothers Gilded Palace of Sin
Waylon Jennings Honky Tonk Heroes
David Lindley & El Rayo-X El Rayo-X
Jimmy Buffett A1A
Gourds Bolsa de Agua
Drive-By Truckers Gangstabilly
Alice Cooper Killer
Leon Russell and Marc Benno Asylum Choir II
Foghat Live
Led Zeppelin Led Zeppelin IV
Bob Marley and the Wailers Live!
Black Sabbath Paranoid
ZZ Top Tres Hombres
Backsliders Throwin' Rocks at the Moon
Ryan Adams Heartbreaker
Old and In the Way Old and In the Way
Van Halen Women and Children First
Emmylou Harris Elite Hotel
The Itals Early Recordings 1971-1979
New Riders of the Purple Sage The Adventures of Panama Red
Son Volt Trace
Wilco Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
James McMurtry Live in Aught-Three
Nantucket It's A Long Way To the Top
AC/DC If You Want Blood...You've Got It
Megafaun Gather, Form & Fly
Kiss Alive
David Allan Coe Rides Again
Peter Frampton Frampton Comes Alive
Rush A Farewell To Kings
R.E.M. Fables of the Reconstruction
Kasey Chambers The Captain
The Replacements Let It Be
Grand Funk Railroad Live Album
Rolling Stones Some Girls
The Earl Scruggs Revue Live! From Austin City Limits
Steve Earle El Corazon
Guadalacanal Diary Walking In the Shadow of the Big Man
Southern Culture On the Skids Dirt Track Date
Smashing Pumpkins Siamese Dream
Pearl Jam No Code
Grateful Dead Workingman's Dead
Lynyrd Skynyrd Pronounced'Lĕh-'nérd 'Skin-'nérd
Aerosmith Aerosmith
Various Artists The Harder They Come (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack)
Guy Clark Texas Cookin'
Perfect When Squirrels Play Chicken EP
Willie Nelson and Leon Russell One More For the Road
Commander Cody and His Lost Planet Airmen Country Casanova
10,000 Maniacs In My Tribe
Donna the Buffalo Donna the Buffalo (aka The Purple One)
John Prine Bruised Orange
Jerry Jeff Walker ¡Viva Terlingua!
The Jimi Hendrix Experience Axis: Bold As Love
Little Feat Waiting For Columbus
Allman Brothers Band Idlewild South
U2 War
Mike Cross The Bounty Hunter
Cheap Trick Heaven Tonight
Various Artists Loud, Fast and Out of Control: The Wild Sounds of 50's Rock (Box Set)
Uncle Tupelo Still Feel Gone
Gram Parsons Grievous Angel
Various Artists Welcome To Comboland
The Connells Fun & Games
Various Artists The "King" Kong Compilation: The Historic Reggae Recordings 1968 - 1970
Peter Tosh Equal Rights
Ryan Gustafson The Donkey LP
Various Artists The Story of Jamaican Music: Tougher Than Tough (Box Set)
Robert Johnson King of the Delta Blues Singers
Goose Creek Symphony Est. 1971
Mount Moriah Mount Moriah
Slim Harpo Tip On In
Counting Crows August and Everything After
Howlin' Wolf His Greatest Sides Volume One
Willie Nelson Live: I Gotta Get Drunk
Waylon Jennings and Willie Nelson Waylon and Willie
Waylon Jennings, Willie Nelson, Tompall Glaser and Jessi Colter Wanted: The Outlaws
Neil Young and Crazy Horse Rust Never Sleeps
Howlin' Wolf & Muddy Waters Muddy & the Wolf
Various Artists Woodstock (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack)
Bob Dylan The Bootleg Series, Vols. I, II & III: Rare and Unreleased 1961-1991 (Box Set)
Tony Joe White The Best of Tony Joe White
Various Artists The Oxford American Southern Sampler 1998
Trailer Bride Whine De Lune
Charlie Daniels Band Fire On the Mountain
Deep Purple Made In Japan
Tinariwen Aman Iman: Water Is Life
Neville Brothers Fiyo On the Bayou
Los Lobos Will the Wolf Survive?
Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble Texas Flood
Nanci Griffith Lone Star State of Mind
Old 97's Too Far To Care
Slobberbone Everything You Thought Was Right Was Wrong Today
The Yayhoos Fear Not the Obvious
Dire Straits Making Movies
Various Artists Nuggets: Choice Artyfacts From the First Psychedelic Era
Frog Holler Idiots
Lucinda Williams Car Wheels On A Gravel Road
Interesting subject, and one that I've got lost in several times when I try to apply the little knowledge I have of music theory to understand if there is some kind of a common denominator to the music I gravitate towards. Wild Horses is an interesting example and imo it also serves as an example of something I believe Stones were/are very good at. I agree that the verse is in G, from a chordal pow in the chorus they throw in an F, and skip the D, which in my head moves the song over in Am (or C), whereas the vocal melody still has the feel of the verse. I haven't really analyzed the melody note for note to say what the apparent key of the vocal melody is, but nevertheless the "trick" creates some kind of tension that works very well and makes the song more interesting in my ears. I would say it may also be what gives the song sort of a country-blues feel (The Rock'n'Roll?). Sweet Virginia would also be example where something similar happens.teleburst wrote:
Oddly enough, songs that are mostly in a minor key don't interest me nearly as much. I like some of them like (Don't Fear) The Reaper, Angie, etc. Angie's a good example. I like it, but I like Wild Horses better. It's in G, but has more than its fair share of minor chords and when it goes back from minor to major, it seems exultant somehow.
Well, that's just my personal take in as small of a nutshell as I could make it.
CHICAGO—Music, a mode of creative expression consisting of sound and silence expressed through time, was given a 6.8 out of 10 rating in an review published Monday on Pitchfork Media, a well-known music-criticism website.
According to the review, authored by Pitchfork editor in chief Ryan Schreiber, the popular medium that predates the written word shows promise but nonetheless "leaves the listener wanting more."
http://www.theonion.com/articles/pitchf ... c-68,2278/
And yet how passionately you would have (and probably did) argue for these if anyone dared suggest a single album was out of place.Shakespeare wrote:i find it interesting how different my own list would be if i did it now, and it hasnt even been a year since i did the one i posted