Re: The TV thread
Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:13 pm
i kinda can't wait for Succession to come back... those two seasons were so excellent. total scumbags, all of them!
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I told someone that I've never loved a show while simultaneously hating every single person on it.tinnitus photography wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:13 pmi kinda can't wait for Succession to come back... those two seasons were so excellent. total scumbags, all of them!
Greg is the only somewhat redeemable person but he's mainly just too stupid to be craven and evil.rlipps wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:31 amI told someone that I've never loved a show while simultaneously hating every single person on it.tinnitus photography wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:13 pmi kinda can't wait for Succession to come back... those two seasons were so excellent. total scumbags, all of them!
One of my favorite shows the last few years. I have meant to come here and post about it but somehow forgot. Finished the last season a while back and I think it holds up very well through all of them. Love to see a show were the actors are speaking different language from "the usuals ones". Russian, Iranian, Syrian etc all sounds pretty authentic and adds to how I perceive this show. I also find the plot(s) quite realistic (although I dont really have any way to confirm this other than a Norwegian "Secret Service" agent stating he was a huge fan and thought it to be very realistic), both on a political and personal level between the characters.beantownbubba wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:00 pmThe Bureau is a French spy series that I hadn't heard of and kind of stumbled into. The first season was very good - very intense and totally absorbing. We didn't quite binge it (too intense for more than a couple of episodes at a time) but on the other hand we finished all 10 episodes in just over a week. The plot is hard to follow at times, but one gets enough of it to ride w/ it and the confusion is overcome by the characters and the individual scenes. Be forewarned, however, that some major plot points are not resolved by the end of the season.
If I understand it correctly, the series is showing on Sundance and season 1 is free until the end of the month. We accessed it thru Amazon Prime and will probably pay for at least the next season.
I agree with almost all of that. Having just started Season 2, I'm not sure where this is going but the plot point about Guilliaume's actions w/in the DGSE (trying not to drop a spoiler) has me wondering on the realism point - not that it seems impossible, I'm just skeptical about an agent's ability to do that much manipulation on the inside. Also, the question must be asked: If a Norwegian Secret Service agent tells you that he's a Norwegian Secret Service Agent, can he really be a Norwegian Secret Service agent?RolanK wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:09 pmOne of my favorite shows the last few years. I have meant to come here and post about it but somehow forgot. Finished the last season a while back and I think it holds up very well through all of them. Love to see a show were the actors are speaking different language from "the usuals ones". Russian, Iranian, Syrian etc all sounds pretty authentic and adds to how I perceive this show. I also find the plot(s) quite realistic (although I dont really have any way to confirm this other than a Norwegian "Secret Service" agent stating he was a huge fan and thought it to be very realistic), both on a political and personal level between the characters.beantownbubba wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:00 pmThe Bureau is a French spy series that I hadn't heard of and kind of stumbled into. The first season was very good - very intense and totally absorbing. We didn't quite binge it (too intense for more than a couple of episodes at a time) but on the other hand we finished all 10 episodes in just over a week. The plot is hard to follow at times, but one gets enough of it to ride w/ it and the confusion is overcome by the characters and the individual scenes. Be forewarned, however, that some major plot points are not resolved by the end of the season.
Well, I see your point, but that is sort of the main premiss for the whole show... there are internal issues within the department and inter-person relations, politics and HR-issues that affects decision making and everything that goes with it. Probably something that everyone who has ever had a job at an office can relate to. I postulate that this is as much of an "Office-show" like and Mad Men and, well, The Office, but with subtle french humor, than it is a pure spy show.beantownbubba wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:47 amI agree with almost all of that. Having just started Season 2, I'm not sure where this is going but the plot point about Guilliaume's actions w/in the DGSE (trying not to drop a spoiler) has me wondering on the realism point - not that it seems impossible, I'm just skeptical about an agent's ability to do that much manipulation on the inside. Also, the question must be asked: If a Norwegian Secret Service agent tells you that he's a Norwegian Secret Service Agent, can he really be a Norwegian Secret Service agent?RolanK wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:09 pmOne of my favorite shows the last few years. I have meant to come here and post about it but somehow forgot. Finished the last season a while back and I think it holds up very well through all of them. Love to see a show were the actors are speaking different language from "the usuals ones". Russian, Iranian, Syrian etc all sounds pretty authentic and adds to how I perceive this show. I also find the plot(s) quite realistic (although I dont really have any way to confirm this other than a Norwegian "Secret Service" agent stating he was a huge fan and thought it to be very realistic), both on a political and personal level between the characters.beantownbubba wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:00 pmThe Bureau is a French spy series that I hadn't heard of and kind of stumbled into. The first season was very good - very intense and totally absorbing. We didn't quite binge it (too intense for more than a couple of episodes at a time) but on the other hand we finished all 10 episodes in just over a week. The plot is hard to follow at times, but one gets enough of it to ride w/ it and the confusion is overcome by the characters and the individual scenes. Be forewarned, however, that some major plot points are not resolved by the end of the season.
You're right.RolanK wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:45 pmWell, I see your point, but that is sort of the main premiss for the whole show... there are internal issues within the department and inter-person relations, politics and HR-issues that affects decision making and everything that goes with it. Probably something that everyone who has ever had a job at an office can relate to. I postulate that this is as much of an "Office-show" like and Mad Men and, well, The Office, but with subtle french humor, than it is a pure spy show.
Someone has kept recommending this to me constantly over the past five years. At the height of lockdown I gave in and ended up bingeing through all 5 seasons.RolanK wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:09 pmOne of my favorite shows the last few years. I have meant to come here and post about it but somehow forgot. Finished the last season a while back and I think it holds up very well through all of them. Love to see a show were the actors are speaking different language from "the usuals ones". Russian, Iranian, Syrian etc all sounds pretty authentic and adds to how I perceive this show. I also find the plot(s) quite realistic (although I dont really have any way to confirm this other than a Norwegian "Secret Service" agent stating he was a huge fan and thought it to be very realistic), both on a political and personal level between the characters.beantownbubba wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:00 pmThe Bureau is a French spy series that I hadn't heard of and kind of stumbled into. The first season was very good - very intense and totally absorbing. We didn't quite binge it (too intense for more than a couple of episodes at a time) but on the other hand we finished all 10 episodes in just over a week. The plot is hard to follow at times, but one gets enough of it to ride w/ it and the confusion is overcome by the characters and the individual scenes. Be forewarned, however, that some major plot points are not resolved by the end of the season.
If I understand it correctly, the series is showing on Sundance and season 1 is free until the end of the month. We accessed it thru Amazon Prime and will probably pay for at least the next season.
I recently stopped HBO because it has really gone downhill the past 2 years. Succession is THE exception. Easily my favorite show the past several years, any network/streaming service. Might have to get HBO Max after season 3 is over, and binge it.tinnitus photography wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:11 pmGreg is the only somewhat redeemable person but he's mainly just too stupid to be craven and evil.rlipps wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:31 amI told someone that I've never loved a show while simultaneously hating every single person on it.tinnitus photography wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:13 pmi kinda can't wait for Succession to come back... those two seasons were so excellent. total scumbags, all of them!
I am definitely a fan and liked the previous three seasons. I did feel season 3 was the weakest but I re-watched it during C-19 nothing to do and it was way better the second time.Shakespeare wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:32 pmonly two eps in so far but im not really feeling the new season of fargo at all.
jessie buckley is fantastic but chris rock and jason schwartzman are terribly out of place as the leads, both feel way too much like comedians to fit the shows humor, and its just a limp gangster tale with none of the charm of any prior season. the show needs well intentioned doofuses tripping in over their heads and so far thats not here at all.
i had some issues with season 3 aiming well beyond the scope of the movie and seasons 1/2 but it had great performances and an enjoyable plot. this seems like its going even bigger into wider social issues but has none of the good things
ways to go so we'll see i guess
i think 3 went off the rails a bit with global conspiracy plotlines, and the ending was pretty bad, but david thewlis was incredible (either him or billy bob have been the best role of the series imo. id give the slight nod to billy bob for encapsulating several different characters in his performance but thewlis was one of the most repulsive-but-cant-look-away performances ive ever seen) and i thought a lot of the black humor was great. maybe past seasons having so many incredible performances set the bar too high to keep matching and this ones more lowkey cast could work in its favor but its really gonna have to get going soon.hendooman wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:45 pmI am definitely a fan and liked the previous three seasons. I did feel season 3 was the weakest but I re-watched it during C-19 nothing to do and it was way better the second time.Shakespeare wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:32 pmonly two eps in so far but im not really feeling the new season of fargo at all.
jessie buckley is fantastic but chris rock and jason schwartzman are terribly out of place as the leads, both feel way too much like comedians to fit the shows humor, and its just a limp gangster tale with none of the charm of any prior season. the show needs well intentioned doofuses tripping in over their heads and so far thats not here at all.
i had some issues with season 3 aiming well beyond the scope of the movie and seasons 1/2 but it had great performances and an enjoyable plot. this seems like its going even bigger into wider social issues but has none of the good things
ways to go so we'll see i guess
Season 4, I am not ready to give judgement but it is definitely slower and the story lines seem all over the place. I am hoping last nights episode will start to bring me in more, haven't watched yet. I will continue to watch just hoping it lives up to the hype.
I wanted to think you were jumping the gun on your assessment, but after episode 4, you hit every nail on the head. It is almost like a cartoon compared to previous seasons, which were surrealistic in their own sense. The best thing for me to look foreword to is I upgraded to Hulu with no commercials today, so I don't have to see 12 pro McConnell commercials every episode.Shakespeare wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:32 pmonly two eps in so far but im not really feeling the new season of fargo at all.
jessie buckley is fantastic but chris rock and jason schwartzman are terribly out of place as the leads, both feel way too much like comedians to fit the shows humor, and its just a limp gangster tale with none of the charm of any prior season. the show needs well intentioned doofuses tripping in over their heads and so far thats not here at all.
i had some issues with season 3 aiming well beyond the scope of the movie and seasons 1/2 but it had great performances and an enjoyable plot. this seems like its going even bigger into wider social issues but has none of the good things
ways to go so we'll see i guess
I'm not sure which one I prefer, but both are on the short list of my favorite shows ever, along with The Wire and The Americans.
im through episode 4 now too and its still not winning me overoilpiers wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:52 pmI wanted to think you were jumping the gun on your assessment, but after episode 4, you hit every nail on the head. It is almost like a cartoon compared to previous seasons, which were surrealistic in their own sense. The best thing for me to look foreword to is I upgraded to Hulu with no commercials today, so I don't have to see 12 pro McConnell commercials every episode.Shakespeare wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:32 pmonly two eps in so far but im not really feeling the new season of fargo at all.
jessie buckley is fantastic but chris rock and jason schwartzman are terribly out of place as the leads, both feel way too much like comedians to fit the shows humor, and its just a limp gangster tale with none of the charm of any prior season. the show needs well intentioned doofuses tripping in over their heads and so far thats not here at all.
i had some issues with season 3 aiming well beyond the scope of the movie and seasons 1/2 but it had great performances and an enjoyable plot. this seems like its going even bigger into wider social issues but has none of the good things
ways to go so we'll see i guess
I see nothing special in the Andrew Bird character. I think it is just something for hip music fans to latch on to. He is not a great actor by any means.Shakespeare wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:29 pmim through episode 4 now too and its still not winning me overoilpiers wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:52 pmI wanted to think you were jumping the gun on your assessment, but after episode 4, you hit every nail on the head. It is almost like a cartoon compared to previous seasons, which were surrealistic in their own sense. The best thing for me to look foreword to is I upgraded to Hulu with no commercials today, so I don't have to see 12 pro McConnell commercials every episode.Shakespeare wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:32 pmonly two eps in so far but im not really feeling the new season of fargo at all.
jessie buckley is fantastic but chris rock and jason schwartzman are terribly out of place as the leads, both feel way too much like comedians to fit the shows humor, and its just a limp gangster tale with none of the charm of any prior season. the show needs well intentioned doofuses tripping in over their heads and so far thats not here at all.
i had some issues with season 3 aiming well beyond the scope of the movie and seasons 1/2 but it had great performances and an enjoyable plot. this seems like its going even bigger into wider social issues but has none of the good things
ways to go so we'll see i guess
somehow andrew bird is becoming the closest thing to a saving grace for me. hes exactly the sort of bumbling character the show thrives on, but theyve been really slow tying him into the story
im still watching every new ep as soon as i can because i still think it has potential to get great in a hurry but ive about given up any hope of the overall cast coming together like past seasons. they gambled big on the leads and whiffed
Finished season 5 last nite and agree wholeheartedly w/ both of you. Superb show. The ending blew us both away. One can always find a few nits to pick but here they are remarkably few and extremely microscopic. I did enjoy and find most interesting how they seemed to evolve to a methodology of having characters explain particularly convoluted plot points as part of the "regular" dialogue between characters, lol. My guess is that they were responding to complaints about how complicated parts of the plot are, but as I think I said before, even w/out the explanations they managed to keep the momentum, suspense and quality going. Man, that ending!305 Engine wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:59 pmSomeone has kept recommending this to me constantly over the past five years. At the height of lockdown I gave in and ended up bingeing through all 5 seasons.RolanK wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:09 pmOne of my favorite shows the last few years. I have meant to come here and post about it but somehow forgot. Finished the last season a while back and I think it holds up very well through all of them. Love to see a show were the actors are speaking different language from "the usuals ones". Russian, Iranian, Syrian etc all sounds pretty authentic and adds to how I perceive this show. I also find the plot(s) quite realistic (although I dont really have any way to confirm this other than a Norwegian "Secret Service" agent stating he was a huge fan and thought it to be very realistic), both on a political and personal level between the characters.beantownbubba wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:00 pmThe Bureau is a French spy series that I hadn't heard of and kind of stumbled into. The first season was very good - very intense and totally absorbing. We didn't quite binge it (too intense for more than a couple of episodes at a time) but on the other hand we finished all 10 episodes in just over a week. The plot is hard to follow at times, but one gets enough of it to ride w/ it and the confusion is overcome by the characters and the individual scenes. Be forewarned, however, that some major plot points are not resolved by the end of the season.
If I understand it correctly, the series is showing on Sundance and season 1 is free until the end of the month. We accessed it thru Amazon Prime and will probably pay for at least the next season.
Just a superb show. Brilliant writing. Great ensemble cast and Kassovitz very charismatic. Wonderful surprise.