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Re: college football 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018/2019

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2023 9:28 pm
by chuckrh
pearlbeer wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 7:55 pm
As a Longhorn, I'm happy with the (deserved) inclusion of Texas. I can't argue that the best four teams are in, but I do think the committee screwed up.

1) Not including FSU. Undefeated with a similar resume as the rest of the field. Come on. Have the stones to leave out the SEC. I get that they aren't the same team after an injury, but they did win. It's unfair and reeks of the real reason behind the decision - money. I feel bad for all those young men who did what they needed to do, only to get hosed in the end.

2) Why not rank UW #1? It would put them in the Rose Bowl to end the Pac-12, they have at least as good a resume as Michigan...and if the "eye test" matters so fucking much, maybe the "admitted cheater" test should too?

Rant over. Bet you a beer on the Huskies vs Horns, chuck.
You're on although if I win you can drink mine for me. Sadly, I can't drink due to exotic drugs I'm on. Those words liver damage tend to get your attention real fast, haha.

Re: college football 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018/2019

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 6:41 am
by Swamp
beantownbubba wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 11:04 am
Not sure if this goes here or in the politics thread, lol,
Well Desantis is stumping for FSU. :lol:
Even though the Gators sucked as much as the beer* at Patterson's show the other night,
I'm happy with way the season ended, both FSU & UGA getting snubbed!


I ain't one of them there beer intellectuals that think if it don't taste like beer it the greatest ever :roll:

Re: college football 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018/2019

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:45 am
by beantownbubba
Swamp wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 6:41 am
Well Desantis is stumping for FSU.
:lol:

I'm not enough of a fan to be able to debate the relative merits of all the potential finalists, so my comments are more top level. And at that top level, 2 things stand out:

Worst from my perspective is that the Committee essentially blamed a 23 year old kid for a whole team/university not getting into the playoff which is fucking outrageous and beyond unfair and that's before considering that at bottom the kid is being blamed for getting hurt. Did I say fucking outrageous? I'm not sure that covers it. I thought that immediately but it was reconfirmed when I saw that Travis apologized for not breaking his leg sooner so the Committee could have had more "data" with which to evaluate his team. That is beyond fucked up. These are responsible adults? Ummm, no.

Second, whatever the merits of each team's claim for inclusion, it's obvious from the way it played out that the governing "theory" was all about power/money, not football prowess. Whether you want to blame ESPN, the aura of Alabama, the SEC, tv ratings or whatever, I'm pretty sure it's not about football and while that's inevitable given the state of sports, broadcasting, money and colleges, it's still pretty damn sad and a breach of the responsibility to the game that was supposedly this committee's raison d'etre.

I also note that an 8 team playoff would solve this problem very neatly (assuming Oregon is the clear #8 which I suppose is not a given) and that a 12 team playoff would add nothing*, which is no doubt why we're getting a 12 team playoff in the future (the NCAA being pretty much guaranteed to come up w/ the wrong answer to pretty much any question).

*Admittedly a 12 team playoff would include all the 2 loss teams meaning there would presumably be no controversies at all, but at the cost of significantly diluting the playoffs, but I know that dilution has been discredited as a reason not to do it across most major sports.

Re: college football 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018/2019

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2023 1:49 pm
by Iowan
FSU deserves to be in over Bama.

Bama’s better.

4 team playoff was always dumb as fuck.

Re: college football 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018/2019

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2023 2:40 pm
by Clams
FSU got completely hosed. The NCAA has turned the regular season and the playoff into a farce. Also I can't believe Swamp is now a beer snob.

Re: college football 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018/2019

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:35 am
by Swamp
Sorry yall, but there's no way I can be objective when it comes to FSU and it just turned political.
Now Desantis wants the state to foot the legal fees for FSU to sue the commitee.
Clams wrote:
Tue Dec 05, 2023 2:40 pm
Also I can't believe Swamp is now a beer snob.
That's when you know the world ain't right, but on the other hand maybe I'm just a snob
in general. I've been called a music snob and my buddy says I'm a weed snob cause I think the
medical in Florida is bs, and not nearly as good as what I can get.

Re: college football 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018/2019

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:44 am
by Zip City
If their charge is to put in the four best teams, Bama should be in

If their charge is to put in the four most deserving, then FSU should be in.

So what’s their charge?

Re: college football 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018/2019

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 4:30 pm
by Iowan
Zip City wrote:If their charge is to put in the four best teams, Bama should be in

If their charge is to put in the four most deserving, then FSU should be in.

So what’s their charge?
Their charge is to make money

Re: college football 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018/2019

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:21 am
by beantownbubba
63-3??!! Yeah, I'm gonna go way out on a limb here and say there's something wrong w/ college football.

Re: college football 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018/2019

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:23 am
by chuckrh
Go UW Huskies! They're riled up because they feel disrespected. We shall see on Monday.

Re: college football 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018/2019

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 9:36 am
by jr29
Other than the teams in the playoff, it seems a lot of these teams are missing some of their best players from their bowl game because the players want to protect their draft status. A coach will often leave before their team's bowl game if he is taking a new job. Call me cynical, but why even play bowl games and why would a fan support a team for a whole season if that's how much it matters to coaches and players ?
I totally understand why players do it, but I don't like it.

Re: college football 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018/2019

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 9:39 am
by Zip City
beantownbubba wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:21 am
63-3??!! Yeah, I'm gonna go way out on a limb here and say there's something wrong w/ college football.
FSU was missing 20+ starters

Re: college football 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018/2019

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:58 pm
by whatwouldcooleydo?
jr29 wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 9:36 am
Other than the teams in the playoff, it seems a lot of these teams are missing some of their best players from their bowl game because the players want to protect their draft status. A coach will often leave before their team's bowl game if he is taking a new job. Call me cynical, but why even play bowl games and why would a fan support a team for a whole season if that's how much it matters to coaches and players ?
I totally understand why players do it, but I don't like it.
A conversation worth having, especially if you add “so many”

Re: college football 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018/2019

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 5:39 pm
by beantownbubba
Zip City wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 9:39 am
beantownbubba wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:21 am
63-3??!! Yeah, I'm gonna go way out on a limb here and say there's something wrong w/ college football.
FSU was missing 20+ starters
Yes, that's the point. See jr's and wwcd's posts. The system is absurd when it tilts toward a result like this. Without blaming anyone (though you can probably guess who I blame) there's clearly a problem that needs fixing. As a Republican governor in MA, Charlie Baker had a rep as a minor miracle worker; time for him to step up to the world of big-time miracles and fix college football.

Re: college football 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018/2019

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:01 pm
by pearlbeer
As a Texas Alum...the Horns just got outplayed. The score and final chance at the end didn't reflect the consistent butt-whooping they received on both sides of the ball. Hoping the Huskies win the big game. and chuck...I owe ya one.

Re: college football 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018/2019

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:05 pm
by beantownbubba
pearlbeer wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:01 pm
As a Texas Alum...the Horns just got outplayed. The score and final chance at the end didn't reflect the consistent butt-whooping they received on both sides of the ball. Hoping the Huskies win the big game. and chuck...I owe ya one.
Have you heard the Ted Cruz theory of Texas sports? Apparently when he shows up, the team from TX loses; I think it's 13 out of 15 times.

Re: college football 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018/2019

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:04 pm
by pearlbeer
beantownbubba wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:05 pm
pearlbeer wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:01 pm
As a Texas Alum...the Horns just got outplayed. The score and final chance at the end didn't reflect the consistent butt-whooping they received on both sides of the ball. Hoping the Huskies win the big game. and chuck...I owe ya one.
Have you heard the Ted Cruz theory of Texas sports? Apparently when he shows up, the team from TX loses; I think it's 13 out of 15 times.
Whenever Ted Cruz shows up ANYWHERE, EVERYONE loses.

Re: college football 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018/2019

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:40 pm
by chuckrh
pearlbeer wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:01 pm
As a Texas Alum...the Horns just got outplayed. The score and final chance at the end didn't reflect the consistent butt-whooping they received on both sides of the ball. Hoping the Huskies win the big game. and chuck...I owe ya one.
Thanks @pearlbeer. Now we just need to take care of Michigan. UW sure hit a home run with their coaching hire 2 years ago. Monday should be entertaining. GO HUSKIES!

Re: college football 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018/2019

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2024 7:33 pm
by Zip City
beantownbubba wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2024 5:39 pm
Zip City wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 9:39 am
beantownbubba wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:21 am
63-3??!! Yeah, I'm gonna go way out on a limb here and say there's something wrong w/ college football.
FSU was missing 20+ starters
Yes, that's the point. See jr's and wwcd's posts. The system is absurd when it tilts toward a result like this. Without blaming anyone (though you can probably guess who I blame) there's clearly a problem that needs fixing. As a Republican governor in MA, Charlie Baker had a rep as a minor miracle worker; time for him to step up to the world of big-time miracles and fix college football.
Simply moving the portal window to after bowl season would be a quick start