Zip City wrote:I thought you guys were all southern badasses down in 'Bama. Sack up and go to school, kids
Don't make me drive up there and kick your Jake Bugg lovin' ass
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Zip City wrote:I thought you guys were all southern badasses down in 'Bama. Sack up and go to school, kids
grapico wrote:Zip City wrote:I thought you guys were all southern badasses down in 'Bama. Sack up and go to school, kids
Don't make me drive up there and kick your Jake Bugg lovin' ass
Zip City wrote:I thought you guys were all southern badasses down in 'Bama. Sack up and go to school, kids
Cole Younger wrote:Zip City wrote:I thought you guys were all southern badasses down in 'Bama. Sack up and go to school, kids
Well I'm from Georgia and I went to work today,
Just how big a boy are you?
I get it. Two inches of snow shuts down major metropolitan areas (not just Atlanta). It's funny! It's funny because when it snows two inches where you live, it's nothing, you might as well be in West Palm Beach. Southerners lose their shit, though! Hilarious.
It's fine if that's how you want to process what happened yesterday and today. But if you do, you are wrong, and you are an asshole.
Zip City wrote:Cole Younger wrote:Zip City wrote:I thought you guys were all southern badasses down in 'Bama. Sack up and go to school, kids
Well I'm from Georgia and I went to work today,
Just how big a boy are you?
I've been going to work in sub-zero temps for two weeks and I'm not crying about it
Zip City wrote:Cole Younger wrote:Zip City wrote:I thought you guys were all southern badasses down in 'Bama. Sack up and go to school, kids
Well I'm from Georgia and I went to work today,
Just how big a boy are you?
I've been going to work in sub-zero temps for two weeks and I'm not crying about it
Cole Younger wrote:Zip City wrote:Cole Younger wrote:
Well I'm from Georgia and I went to work today,
Just how big a boy are you?
I've been going to work in sub-zero temps for two weeks and I'm not crying about it
I work outside and whatever the weather is I deal with it. You work inside don't you? What difference would it make what the weather is like?
I doubt your candy ass could make it to lunch time on my job if it was sunny and in the 70s.
Cole Younger wrote:I mentioned70 degrees because I figured that was pretty ideal by anyone's standards. I can't tell if you are being genuinely obtuse or if it is just a clever way of messing with me back.
Zip City wrote:Smug northerner? Yeah, I probably am sometimes. But smugness isn't contained to the cooler weather states ( see the college football thread for starters)
Iowan wrote:Cole Younger wrote:I mentioned70 degrees because I figured that was pretty ideal by anyone's standards. I can't tell if you are being genuinely obtuse or if it is just a clever way of messing with me back.
Giving you shit.
Zip City wrote: see the college football thread for starters
Iowan wrote: If I travel on a crowded highway moving less than the speed limit, I become enraged, because I never deal with it.
Smitty wrote:Ask TC if his opinion of Southerners & snow changed since he's been down here.
Tequila Cowboy wrote:Smitty wrote:Ask TC if his opinion of Southerners & snow changed since he's been down here.
It didn't take moving south to figure out the whole "winter storm cripples city" thing, all it took was the ice storm of 2011 which affected so many folks travels to Homecoming that year. Yeah, there were some funny bits like shop owners shoveling sidewalks with coal shovels and brooms, but what I saw on the roads and what Lurleen had to deal with driving though Atlanta in the meat of it that year wasn't funny at all, so I did a little research. One comparison I made was between the Atlanta Metro area and the Milwaukee Metro area as those two areas comp pretty nicely in terms of population. Milwaukee has about 100,000 more people in the city proper than Atlanta but Milwaukee's suburbs are less populated making both metros roughly 650,000. In 2011 Milwaukee had roughly 187 snow plows in the city plus another 60 in the burbs. Atlanta had 4, with another 6 in the burbs. So do that math and you get 247 to 10. Now that makes sense when you consider how many winter storms hit Milwaukee every year and that Atlanta averages one ever 3-5 year (that number has increased recently but more on that in a second). Also Atlanta buys a minuscule amount of road salt whereas Milwaukee spends a small fortune on it (they've since switched primarily to cheese brine which is nearly free having only to pay for pickup and delivery but that's a different story) Bottom line if three inches of snow hit Atlanta and temperatures start to fall, they are basically fucked. Even worse if it's its just ice and its get colder. The mixture of the two is the most deadly and that's what hit yesterday. Birmingham has even a worse situation getting much fewer of these events and almost resources towards them. This situation apparently affected a guitarist/songwriter Birmingham native of all of our acquaintance yesterday as well so I'm pretty sure he's not laughing. We were in Little Rock in December and it was the same situation, although they being further north were a little more prepared and salted the main roads. Bottom line the south is not equipped for this. Those of you in the north think on this a second, think about how people drive in the first winter storm of the year, every damned year. Bad huh? Now think about it if it happened once every FIVE years. Yeah, I think you get the picture. No resources and people don't see enough of it to learn how to deal properly. Explains yesterday pretty well huh?
Here's the one criticism I have about the Atlanta situation, well ok more than one. First they've had 5 of these in the last 10 years with the frequency on the rise. They should probably be a little better prepared. Road closure plans, maybe a few more trucks for the interstates, etc. Still that's nitpicking and I understand there are other factors to consider. My second complaint I don't get though and that's the blaming. Atlanta's mayor blamed the Governor, the Governor blamed local school boards for not letting kids go earlier and I even heard blaming of the meteorologists. Folks, it's a storm, no one is equiped and the last thing that people who elected you want is finger pointing at each other and, in the case of the schools, essentially blaming the citizens. Yeah, fuck that. They should have had a united front, explained their situation and explained that they would study some other plans going forward. Would that have been hard? What happened happened. Blame later. Anyway that's my primary beef and it's solely on the ATL Metro area. Birmingham's situation was different.
Anyway if you have any doubt that winter storms fuck shit up and catch up with the unprepared in the north, consult The Google and search Michael Bilandic-Chicago. Cost him his job. Winter sucks in terms of transportation of a great many people, when you get it all the time and gain knowledge about it every year and devote resources to it, it gets easier. If it's twice in 20 years, not so much. Ok I'm done.
Iowan wrote:TC is right about how Northerners always drive like idiots for the first snowfall of the year. The first snow always causes a ton of delays and fenderbenders. People just get out of shape for winter driving.