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Re: NFL 2015

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:58 am
by Tequila Cowboy
100,000 people are expected at the draft tonight in Chicago. Mind you this is a sporting event where no sports will be played and yet 100K Warm bodies will arrive, consume and conquer while young men get chosen in a contest to divide who gets how many millions. You really can't write this shit can you?

Re: NFL 2015

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:07 am
by Bill in CT
Tequila Cowboy wrote:100,000 people are expected at the draft tonight in Chicago. Mind you this is a sporting event where no sports will be played and yet 100K Warm bodies will arrive, consume and conquer while young men get chosen in a contest to divide who gets how many millions. You really can't write this shit can you?
This is puzzling since the NFL draft venue only holds 3901 people. Are the rest of the fans going to Chicago to celebrate or drown their sorrows (as the case may be) in the same city as the actual draft?

http://www.auditoriumtheatre.org/plan-y ... ing-chart/

Re: NFL 2015

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:13 am
by Tequila Cowboy
Bill in CT wrote:
Tequila Cowboy wrote:100,000 people are expected at the draft tonight in Chicago. Mind you this is a sporting event where no sports will be played and yet 100K Warm bodies will arrive, consume and conquer while young men get chosen in a contest to divide who gets how many millions. You really can't write this shit can you?
This is puzzling since the NFL draft venue only holds 3901 people. Are the rest of the fans going to Chicago to celebrate or drown their sorrows (as the case may be) in the same city as the actual draft?

http://www.auditoriumtheatre.org/plan-y ... ing-chart/
There's "Draft Row" or whatever they're calling it set up in Grant Park with jumbotrons and celebrity events including kids activities. that's where the bulk of the people will be. It actually started yesterday afternoon.

Re: NFL 2015

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:13 am
by Tequila Cowboy
Bill in CT wrote:
Tequila Cowboy wrote:100,000 people are expected at the draft tonight in Chicago. Mind you this is a sporting event where no sports will be played and yet 100K Warm bodies will arrive, consume and conquer while young men get chosen in a contest to divide who gets how many millions. You really can't write this shit can you?
This is puzzling since the NFL draft venue only holds 3901 people. Are the rest of the fans going to Chicago to celebrate or drown their sorrows (as the case may be) in the same city as the actual draft?

http://www.auditoriumtheatre.org/plan-y ... ing-chart/
There's "Draft Row" or whatever they're calling it set up in Grant Park with jumbotrons and celebrity events including kids activities. that's where the bulk of the people will be. It actually started yesterday afternoon.

Re: NFL 2015

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:39 am
by beantownbubba
PT Barnum would be proud. And I mean that as a compliment.

Re: NFL 2015

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:31 pm
by Gaetzi
Was hoping to see Gang Green in here.. As a Jets fan, draft day is the most exciting day of the year.. The season is still months away, the team has not yet let us down and there's unrealistic optimism that we trade up and get Mariota.

Alas, I have no doubt we'll just take the best option for the #6 pick, Geno will blow the starting role by week 3 and the team goes 5-11.

Re: NFL 2015

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:52 pm
by Zip City
The most exciting thing about the draft is that it will soon be over. I grew weary of it about 3 months ago

Re: NFL 2015

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:08 pm
by Tequila Cowboy
Zip City wrote:The most exciting thing about the draft is that it will soon be over. I grew weary of it about 3 months ago
I used to love it but last year burned me out. I've paid very little attention this year and the hype machine has really exploded.

Re: NFL 2015

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:44 pm
by Tequila Cowboy
I truly don't want Marcus Mariota. That is all.

Re: NFL 2015

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:52 pm
by Zip City
Tequila Cowboy wrote:I truly don't want Marcus Mariota. That is all.
I don't think Winston to Mariota would be top ten picks in many past drafts. Thin QB pool plus teams at top with QB needs has lushed them higher than they should be.

And No to Mariota as well, especially since he's never taken a snap under center

Re: NFL 2015

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 7:05 pm
by Gator McKlusky
beantownbubba wrote:PT Barnum would be proud. And I mean that as a compliment.
Ain't that the truth. Why does everything have to be such a ridiculous spectacle?

Re: NFL 2015

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 7:16 pm
by Gang Green
Gaetzi wrote:Was hoping to see Gang Green in here.. As a Jets fan, draft day is the most exciting day of the year.. The season is still months away, the team has not yet let us down and there's unrealistic optimism that we trade up and get Mariota.

Alas, I have no doubt we'll just take the best option for the #6 pick, Geno will blow the starting role by week 3 and the team goes 5-11.
Draft day is bigger than Super Bowl Sunday, though I'm still scared from the Lam Jones, Jeff Lagaman, Kyle Brady, Mike Nugent, Blair Thomas, Roger Vick, ahh never mind.

The draft still needs to be in New York, it loses something being in Chicago, sorry Zip and TC. If Mariotta fell to the Jets, fine, but I I'm not in favor of trading up for him. I look forward to the Ryan Fitzpatrick era, he's got to be better than Al Woodall.

Steve Serby says they'll pick that guard/tackle from Iowa. I'm good with that. Please, no recieivers or pass rushers.

Re: NFL 2015

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 7:26 pm
by Zip City
Gang Green wrote:
The draft still needs to be in New York, it loses something being in Chicago, sorry Zip and TC.
Why?

Re: NFL 2015

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 7:47 pm
by Gang Green
Zip City wrote:
Gang Green wrote:
The draft still needs to be in New York, it loses something being in Chicago, sorry Zip and TC.
Why?
Come on Zip, I'm having some fun. But if you don't get a chill watching the video below, then you haven't lived live. Though, I know you have State College connections, I can blame you for the Blair Thomas and Kyle Brady pick.


Re: NFL 2015

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 8:10 pm
by Tequila Cowboy
If you're a Tampa Bay Buccaneer fan, you've got problems. If you're a TB Bucs fan with your face painted like an idiot in draft night, you're likely insane.

Re: NFL 2015

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 8:28 pm
by Clams
Props from Philly to the Chicago audience for booing Goodell every time he walks to the podium.

Re: NFL 2015

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 8:56 pm
by Gang Green
Clams wrote:Props from Philly to the Chicago audience for booing Goodell every time he walks to the podium.
I take back what I said above about Chicago.

Re: NFL 2015

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 8:59 pm
by Tequila Cowboy
Clams wrote:Props from Philly to the Chicago audience for booing Goodell every time he walks to the podium.
Channelling their inner Philadelphian. :lol:

Gang Green you have to be psyched for Leonard Williams.

Re: NFL 2015

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 8:59 pm
by Tequila Cowboy
Hard to pass on Kevin White.

Re: NFL 2015

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:10 pm
by Gang Green
Tequila Cowboy wrote:
Clams wrote:Props from Philly to the Chicago audience for booing Goodell every time he walks to the podium.
Channelling their inner Philadelphian. :LOL:

Gang Green you have to be psyched for Leonard Williams.
I'm a glass half empty kind of guy, I'm concerned about his shoulder. But, he was the best player on the board and I didn't think they needed a receiver. They're D line was their strength, but it can never be too strong. I'm mildly happy. The Skins took the guy I wanted.

Re: NFL 2015

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:24 pm
by Zip City
Williams was considered by most to be the best overall player in the draft. I wanted him in Chicago. You should be ecstatic

Re: NFL 2015

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:29 pm
by Tequila Cowboy
Zip City wrote:Williams was considered by most to be the best overall player in the draft. I wanted him in Chicago. You should be ecstatic
I wanted him too but didn't spend much time wishing for him as I was shocked he fell to 6. If there's a sure All Pro in the top 10 it's Williams.

Re: NFL 2015

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:55 pm
by Gang Green
Zip City wrote:Williams was considered by most to be the best overall player in the draft. I wanted him in Chicago. You should be ecstatic
I'm happy they picked the best guy available. But, I have heard bad things about his shoulder. So, I'm happy with reservations. And, they still need to score big in the later rounds. Sorry guys, I've been a Jet fan too long, I keep my expectations low.

Re: NFL 2015

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 1:51 am
by beantownbubba
A sure sign of trouble: Mel Kiper thinks the Patriots got the "best value" in the first round.

Re: NFL 2015

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 11:55 am
by Tequila Cowboy
If Chip Kelly really did offer the package that he was rumored to have offered to both Tampa Bay and Tennessee one has to not only question Kelly's sanity but also the judgment of the brain trusts of the Bucs and Titans. I mean really can anyone say that either one of those guys, Winston or Mariota, are guaranteed franchise QB's?

Favorite quote of the night from Mike Mayock; "I think when you think Jameis Winston and who he is and what he can do you have to think of Ben Roethlisberger". I honestly couldn't believe those words came out of his mouth. Surely he didn't put much thought into them.

Re: NFL 2015

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 11:58 am
by beantownbubba
Tequila Cowboy wrote:Favorite quote of the night from Mike Mayock; "I think when you think Jameis Winston and who is and what he can do you have to think of Ben Roethlisberger". I honestly couldn't believe those words came out of his mouth. Surely he didn't put much thought into them.
That's really funny in a donald rumsfeld kind of way.

What was the pkg Kelly was offering to move up?

Re: NFL 2015

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 12:09 pm
by Tequila Cowboy
beantownbubba wrote:
Tequila Cowboy wrote:Favorite quote of the night from Mike Mayock; "I think when you think Jameis Winston and who he is and what he can do you have to think of Ben Roethlisberger". I honestly couldn't believe those words came out of his mouth. Surely he didn't put much thought into them.
That's really funny in a donald rumsfeld kind of way.

What was the pkg Kelly was offering to move up?
According to NFL.com's Ian Rapport, the Eagles offered two first round picks, a third round pick, defensive end Fletcher Cox, defensive back Brandon Boykin and linebacker Mychal Kendricks. Sam Bradford, who the Eagles recently added through trade, was also mentioned as part of a potential package.

Re: NFL 2015

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 12:14 pm
by beantownbubba
Tequila Cowboy wrote:According to NFL.com's Ian Rapport, the Eagles offered two first round picks, a third round pick, defensive end Fletcher Cox, defensive back Brandon Boykin and linebacker Mychal Kendricks. Sam Bradford, who the Eagles recently added through trade, was also mentioned as part of a potential package.
Tequila Cowboy wrote:If Chip Kelly really did offer the package that he was rumored to have offered to both Tampa Bay and Tennessee one has to not only question Kelly's sanity but also the judgment of the brain trusts of the Bucs and Titans. I mean really can anyone say that either one of those guys, Winston or Mariota, are guaranteed franchise QB's?
Seriously. :shock: I can only hope that those were all available pieces from which a package could be negotiated, not that ALL of that was the package.

Re: NFL 2015

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 12:18 pm
by Tequila Cowboy
Rappaport reported it was all of it and Bradford was added at the last minute to sweeten the pot. If true I cannot understand why either of those teams turned it down much less both of them. Of course Kelly is denying it all.

Re: NFL 2015

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 2:04 pm
by beantownbubba
The deflategate report is finally released and as expected it clarifies exactly nothing. This is really unfortunate, especially for Tom Brady but also for pretty much everyone involved.

The report impugns Brady's integrity and implies he's a liar. That's gonna be a permanent stain which is fine if it's deserved, but I'm not sure the report backs up that result.

Mostly, the report will give Patriots haters plenty of ammunition and justification for calling the Pats cheaters and calling into question some remarkable achievements while leaving so much room for spin and doubt as to not satisfactorily resolve the issue to anyone's satisfaction. That uncertainty means that this subject will never die as a subject of talk radio speculation, trash talk among fans and perhaps players, and an "asterisk" when placing the Pats, Bellichick and Brady in historical context. I'm already tired of hearing it and it hasn't even started. :lol: I'd call that a pretty bad outcome and a waste of a huge amount of the NFL's dough. I'd have to read the whole report to credibly criticize Wells and his team and I doubt I'm going to do that, but based on what I've read, I wouldn't hire them.

It's just a shame because even if the Patriots did exactly what they're accused of and they did it knowingly, it didn't have a damn bit of influence on the outcome*. So then one is left w/ "well if they did that imagine what else they've done but weren't caught." The net result will be the tarnishing of the Patriots' legacy out of all proportion to what they actually did. Very sad.

*As I've said before, that doesn't excuse the act and it should be punished. It's the disproportionate impact that I'm addressing here.