No special deputies. He has till the end of the day to resign or be arrested.
He did not resign. He was arrested, booked, and released on bail only to continue his re-election bid. Then the Gov stepped in and removed him from office.
Re: The Neverending Thread for Political Shit
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:07 pm
by beantownbubba
Well said. Maybe perfectly said. The case against Trump in one handy dandy editorial. I'm looking forward to their promised series, but really, this is all you need.
Well said. Maybe perfectly said. The case against Trump in one handy dandy editorial. I'm looking forward to their promised series, but really, this is all you need.
Last line is the Money Shot: "...this time it is up to us, the American people, to remove Mr. Trump from office." I remain unsure if the collective American conscious is up to the task. If this election is anything less than an electoral drubbing of Cheeto Mussolini along the lines of McGovern's defeat by Nixon, I think you can stick a fork in our ass as a functional society capable of self-goverance.
If this election is anything less than an electoral drubbing of Cheeto Mussolini along the lines of McGovern's defeat by Nixon, I think you can stick a fork in our ass as a functional society capable of self-goverance.
A Nixon/McGovern like result would be great but I'm just hoping for clear & convincing margins for Biden. Say >6 Million in the popular vote and at least 310 votes in the EC w/ a heavier than usual turnout. A close result in either direction will be real trouble in many, many ways.
Re: The Neverending Thread for Political Shit
Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:27 pm
by Flea
Nikki Haley: who is she trying to convince, and why?
^^^ I have seen/heard nothing to make me regret taking a pass on the RNC.
In other news, there's this column in today's NYT. OT1H, it's not really new or remarkable but OTOH it puts some numbers under the observation that most people don't actually think about things, they just apply their biases to any issue that comes along.
I posted this on FB in response to MAB's observation that the President is full of shit, spreading lies and taking indefensible fairy tale positions. This time happens to be w/ respect to Kenosha, but does it really matter at this point?
The president's entire campaign is an attempt to insist that an alternative reality is actual reality. It starts from the proposition that the actual, sitting, incumbent President is not, and has not been for the past 3.5 years, the actual President so if you are unhappy w/ the status quo, you should vote for the guy who hasn't really been the president and who hasn't been responsible for any specific thing you're unhappy about no matter what it is. After you've made that giant never before seen leap, defending the indefensible and lying in order to do so isn't that big a step. The most revolutionary act we can perform right now is to hold on to reality and insist that public figures and the media acknowledge, accept and respond to it.
Re: The Neverending Thread for Political Shit
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:15 pm
by Flea
If I were a political cartoonist, I would depict sean hannity as The Mouth Of Sauron. With a gaping dirty starfish for his piehole.
Re: The Neverending Thread for Political Shit
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 8:08 am
by Zip City
While in Kenosha, Trump wanted a photo op with the owner of a burned down camera shop. The owner refused, so Trump found someone else to pose as the owner
Re: The Neverending Thread for Political Shit
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:28 pm
by John A Arkansawyer
Dealing with the endless stream of lies and horseshit is part of how he wears people down. There are some good ideas in here about how to cope with that shitstream. I'll summarize them as:
Look for the big lies the little lies cover or support.
Don't play whack-a-lie with a man who lies wholesale.
Creationism defender Duane Gish became famous for a debating technique now known as the Gish Gallop: tossing out so many lies, exaggerations, mischaracterizations, and other deceptions so quickly that your opponent simply can’t respond to them all. Debaters who try will just exhaust their own time (and the audience’s patience) on factual details without ever getting around to addressing the galloper’s main points, much less making their own case.
The trap of fact-checking. This week’s Republican Convention was essentially a four-day Gish gallop. Speaker after speaker gave fact-checkers a workout...
So you can imagine how easy it would be to take the Gish-gallop bait: I could go on for screens and screens listing specific errors of fact and logic. And if you dislike the Republican Party anyway, you might read that list with a certain I-was-right-all-along satisfaction.
The four big lies. However, that’s not the case that needs to be made right now. The RNC wasn’t like a Liar’s Convention or a Festival of Tall Tales. The week’s disinformation wasn’t a random scattering of fanciful notions. The point of the lesser lies was to support bigger lies, which often stayed in the background. So even if an undecided voter who watched the convention also read all the fact-checks, and came to understand that Puerto Ricans are citizens and Biden isn’t planning to defund the police, he or she might still come away believing one or more of these four falsehoods...
Re: The Neverending Thread for Political Shit
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:43 am
by beantownbubba
^^^ Good stuff. But very, very depressing (in the same old ways, but still...)
I am just so, so tired. And angry. Really angry all the time. And so tired of being really angry all the time.
The conventional wisdom seems to be that the wildfires in the West are not getting the full attention they deserve because they're not in swing states and thus not part of everyone's alleged laser like focus on the election. This makes no sense to me, just wondering if anybody else has any thoughts, pro or con.
Fuck Trump.
Re: The Neverending Thread for Political Shit
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:03 am
by Zip City
time to rename the country "The States of America"