beantownbubba wrote:Loesch's boss decided to get into the act as well (from my FB post):
In the wake of David Brooks's remarkably misguided appeal in yesterday's NYT for gun control advocates to be more respectful and civil, today we have Wayne LaPierre of the NRA foaming at the mouth. The man actually referred to the possibility of Democrats winning control of the House, Senate or White House as "seizing control of the government." This is not merely frightening, it's sick. It's a repudiation, a disavowal of democracy and a justification for an actual autocratic takeover of the government.
LaPierre of course picked up a tweeted endorsement from Trump this morning, too, though it's not clear if it was in response to LaPierre's speech.
Flying Rabbit wrote:Did anyone watch the town hall?
Rubio definitely didn't come off well, but at least he showed up to face the people. It was noted a few times that Rick Scott didn't even consider attending.
We watched the entire thing. I think you are being diplomatic with respect to Rubio, I thought he took a beating, continually wilting whenever pressed on an issue, especially when the student asked if he would continue to take NRA money. That question really brought out ol' Little Marco
“They don’t care about our schoolchildren,” LaPierre said Thursday morning near the start of the Conservative Political Action Conference. “They want to make all of us less free.”
“Evil walks among us,” LaPierre said. “And God help us if we don’t harden our schools and protect our kids.”
I agree with Wayne, evil DOES walk among us
Re: The Neverending Thread for Political Shit
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:56 pm
by John A Arkansawyer
whatwouldcooleydo? wrote:
Zip City wrote:She already looks like a corporate mega-villain, but not NRA spokeswoman Dana Loesch is saying super-villain things
From her appearances on Bill Maher I always suspected she had no soul. Last night she proved it
"Yeah, but they have a conscience."
"Judges! Do they have a conscience?"
Re: The Neverending Thread for Political Shit
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:03 pm
by whatwouldcooleydo?
This week has been such a journey through the past (the times they are-a changin' back). In all of the furor after the shooting in Florida, people like LaPierre and Jack Kingston have dusted off such rightwing evergreens as blaming Karl Marx, rap music. video games, Hollywood, and lack of school prayer
Re: The Neverending Thread for Political Shit
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:24 am
by Smitty
It's not just Billy Basement Dweller buying into false flag conspiracy theories anymore. Tin foil hats are now mainstream and the total lack of human decency on top of completely illogical thinking* are something out of a horror flick (or Black Mirror, I guess). This is truly uncharted territory.
Re: The Neverending Thread for Political Shit
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:57 am
by Zip City
Smitty wrote:It's not just Billy Basement Dweller buying into false flag conspiracy theories anymore. Tin foil hats are now mainstream and the total lack of human decency on top of completely illogical thinking* are something out of a horror flick (or Black Mirror, I guess). This is truly uncharted territory.
There is a subset of people who have always been around, but whose insane ideas were mostly kept in check. They were shamed when they spoke up, and so they kept to themselves or socialized on websites or chat groups. Trump has empowered them to speak loudly, and they no longer feel like everyone is against them
Re: The Neverending Thread for Political Shit
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:52 am
by beantownbubba
Zip City wrote: and they no longer feel like everyone is against them
That phrase caught my eye because I've been ever since I heard that the crowd at CPAC was chanting "lock her up" I've been trying to get a grip on it. Assuming that convention attendees are a reasonable proxy for Republican voters and a better than reasonable proxy for Trumpists (Trumpets? Trumpettes?), these folks won. Their guy is the president, their party controls both houses. Yet they take up this chant, referring to the candidate that lost 16 months ago, as if they were powerless. My tentative conclusion is that they have become professional victims, exactly what they accused "welfare queens" and minorities in general of being for decades. I find this totally in keeping w/ the current environment which is to say totally bizarre.
Re: The Neverending Thread for Political Shit
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:44 am
by Tequila Cowboy
beantownbubba wrote:
Zip City wrote: and they no longer feel like everyone is against them
That phrase caught my eye because I've been ever since I heard that the crowd at CPAC was chanting "lock her up" I've been trying to get a grip on it. Assuming that convention attendees are a reasonable proxy for Republican voters and a better than reasonable proxy for Trumpists (Trumpets? Trumpettes?), these folks won. Their guy is the president, their party controls both houses. Yet they take up this chant, referring to the candidate that lost 16 months ago, as if they were powerless. My tentative conclusion is that they have become professional victims, exactly what they accused "welfare queens" and minorities in general of being for decades. I find this totally in keeping w/ the current environment which is to say totally bizarre.
Yes, they are perpetual victims. Good call on that one, Bubba. They aren't idiots and demographically they see their time to shape this country is on borrowed time so they take the approach that they're persecuted in order to enact policy of their choosing before they actually become minorities. Fear is their tool and it's frankly the only one available to them. A friend and I had a discussion two or three years ago talking about this and discussing just how dangerous a wounded, and potentially dying, beast really is. Today's "Grand Old Party" is proving our theory daily. I hate these fucking people.
Re: The Neverending Thread for Political Shit
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:53 am
by cortez the killer
Zip City wrote:
Smitty wrote:It's not just Billy Basement Dweller buying into false flag conspiracy theories anymore. Tin foil hats are now mainstream and the total lack of human decency on top of completely illogical thinking* are something out of a horror flick (or Black Mirror, I guess). This is truly uncharted territory.
There is a subset of people who have always been around, but whose insane ideas were mostly kept in check. They were shamed when they spoke up, and so they kept to themselves or socialized on websites or chat groups. Trump has empowered them to speak loudly, and they no longer feel like everyone is against them
Out from the shadows of chat groups, websites & message boards and into the bright lights of Twitter & Facebook. The keyboard warriors have spoken!
Re: The Neverending Thread for Political Shit
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:10 pm
by Zip City
cortez the killer wrote:
Zip City wrote:
Smitty wrote:It's not just Billy Basement Dweller buying into false flag conspiracy theories anymore. Tin foil hats are now mainstream and the total lack of human decency on top of completely illogical thinking* are something out of a horror flick (or Black Mirror, I guess). This is truly uncharted territory.
There is a subset of people who have always been around, but whose insane ideas were mostly kept in check. They were shamed when they spoke up, and so they kept to themselves or socialized on websites or chat groups. Trump has empowered them to speak loudly, and they no longer feel like everyone is against them
Out from the shadows of chat groups, websites & message boards and into the bright lights of Twitter & Facebook. The keyboard warriors have spoken!
I get your point, but I've seen and heard people who have become much more brazen in face-to-face dialogue as well.
Re: The Neverending Thread for Political Shit
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:56 pm
by phungi
on the positive side, (a subset of?) the youth of America appear to be motivated and mobilizing in ways that have not been seen since the Vietnam war...
their mastery of social media combined with a new-found sense of social justice may create a powerful force, at least if their attention span allows this cause to remain in the fore-front until November
Re: The Neverending Thread for Political Shit
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:11 pm
by whatwouldcooleydo?
Tequila Cowboy wrote:
beantownbubba wrote:
Zip City wrote: and they no longer feel like everyone is against them
That phrase caught my eye because I've been ever since I heard that the crowd at CPAC was chanting "lock her up" I've been trying to get a grip on it. Assuming that convention attendees are a reasonable proxy for Republican voters and a better than reasonable proxy for Trumpists (Trumpets? Trumpettes?), these folks won. Their guy is the president, their party controls both houses. Yet they take up this chant, referring to the candidate that lost 16 months ago, as if they were powerless. My tentative conclusion is that they have become professional victims, exactly what they accused "welfare queens" and minorities in general of being for decades. I find this totally in keeping w/ the current environment which is to say totally bizarre.
Yes, they are perpetual victims. Good call on that one, Bubba. They aren't idiots and demographically they see their time to shape this country is on borrowed time so they take the approach that they're persecuted in order to enact policy of their choosing before they actually become minorities. Fear is their tool and it's frankly the only one available to them. A friend and I had a discussion two or three years ago talking about this and discussing just how dangerous a wounded, and potentially dying, beast really is. Today's "Grand Old Party" is proving our theory daily. I hate these fucking people.
IIRC, Thomas Frank spent considerable time on this perpetual victimhood in What’s the Matter with Kansas?, and that was written over 14 years ago
Samantha Fuentes, who was shot in both legs during the Parkland assault, said she had felt no reassurance during a phone call from the president to her hospital room last week.
“He said he heard that I was a big fan of his, and then he said, ‘I’m a big fan of yours too.’ I’m pretty sure he made that up,” she said in an interview after being discharged from the hospital. “Talking to the president, I’ve never been so unimpressed by a person in my life. He didn’t make me feel better in the slightest.”
Ms. Fuentes, who was left with a piece of shrapnel lodged behind her right eye, said Mr. Trump had called the gunman a “sick puppy” and said “‘oh boy, oh boy, oh boy,’ like, seven times.”
The state's House of Representatives approved the resolution by a voice vote Tuesday, despite some members asking why the topic is being taken up at this time. The resolution was sponsored by Rep. Ross Spano, who is running for attorney general.
During a debate, Rep. Carlos Guillermo Smith asked Spano if pornography has killed or physically injured anyone. He went one step further in asking Spano if pornography has caused any first responders to seek counseling.
Everyone can stop worrying about guns and mass shootings in schools because a Florida lawmaker has just introduced groundbreaking legislation that will surely be adopted by other areas throughout the nation and will definitely put a halt to gun violence.
According to CNN, Rep. Kimberly Daniels, a Democrat, pushed a bill requiring public schools to display the motto “In God We Trust,” saying that while gun violence is a problem, “issues of the heart” need addressing as well.
“It is not a secret that we have some gun issues that need to be addressed,” Daniels said on the House floor Wednesday, CNN reports. “But the real thing that needs to be addressed are issues of the heart.”
Now I'm proud to say I ain't never been no violent man, but.....
Re: The Neverending Thread for Political Shit
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:38 pm
by beantownbubba
Florida man is apparently on a quest to prove that he's truly a different species from the rest of us.
President Trump claimed Monday that he would have rushed into the Florida high school during the mass shooting earlier this month there that killed 17 people, and he called it “disgusting” that an officer assigned to the school didn’t enter the building while the attack was underway.
“I really believe I'd run in, even if I didn't have a weapon,” Trump said during a White House meeting with governors from across the country
Re: The Neverending Thread for Political Shit
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:01 pm
by pearlbeer
whatwouldcooleydo? wrote:President Trump claimed Monday that he would have rushed into the Florida high school during the mass shooting earlier this month there that killed 17 people, and he called it “disgusting” that an officer assigned to the school didn’t enter the building while the attack was underway.
“I really believe I'd run in, even if I didn't have a weapon,” Trump said
I was thinking today, about the Dotard and the NRA and the Rs in general, calling the local police "cowards" and "failures", etc. You know, if those folks had been in the Military, I can't imagine our elected officials speaking like that.
Re: The Neverending Thread for Political Shit
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:09 pm
by whatwouldcooleydo?
pearlbeer wrote:
whatwouldcooleydo? wrote:President Trump claimed Monday that he would have rushed into the Florida high school during the mass shooting earlier this month there that killed 17 people, and he called it “disgusting” that an officer assigned to the school didn’t enter the building while the attack was underway.
“I really believe I'd run in, even if I didn't have a weapon,” Trump said
I was thinking today, about the Dotard and the NRA and the Rs in general, calling the local police "cowards" and "failures", etc. You know, if those folks had been in the Military, I can't imagine our elected officials speaking like that.
I was thinking along those same lines, wondering how Trump's supporters are gonna reconcile the Dear Leader calling their beloved law enforcement "cowards"
Re: The Neverending Thread for Political Shit
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:45 am
by beantownbubba
Essentially, the President of the United States had a basement or late nite dorm room bullshit session with the nation's governors. It's an absurd statement to make - unprovable, macho, exactly the kind of thing one says after a few beers while shooting the shit w/ the guys. Which ought not to be a description of the President conducting official business!!! Throw in his history w/ bone spurs and draft dodging and the statement gains in absurdity what it loses in credibility and, as noted above, simply adds to our embarrassment (certainly not his, 'cause he doesn't know from embarrassment, unfortunately).
Re: The Neverending Thread for Political Shit
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:57 am
by Zip City
Trump = the best and Everyone Else = losers is pretty much the crux of everything he says and does.
Re: The Neverending Thread for Political Shit
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:44 am
by pearlbeer
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/bus ... 8483d147bb
“I will kill any tax legislation that benefits @Delta unless the company changes its position and fully reinstates its relationship with @NRA,” Cagle tweeted. “Corporations cannot attack conservatives and expect us not to fight back.”
I'm so confused. I thought these guys decided that Corporations are people?
Re: The Neverending Thread for Political Shit
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:05 pm
by whatwouldcooleydo?
pearlbeer wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/bus ... 8483d147bb
“I will kill any tax legislation that benefits @Delta unless the company changes its position and fully reinstates its relationship with @NRA,” Cagle tweeted. “Corporations cannot attack conservatives and expect us not to fight back.”
I'm so confused. I thought these guys decided that Corporations are people?
I SO want to hear Delta tell Casey Cagle to, "come at me bro!!!" I'm pretty certain Delta is way more important to Atlanta and the state than is ol' Casey!
Suck a fuckin' stunt, dude knows this won't, dare I say, fly, but he gets to let the NRA know very publically that he'll bend over for them
Re: The Neverending Thread for Political Shit
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:20 pm
by beantownbubba
I know, I know, it's ridiculous of me to even think this much less say it, but you know there's still that spark struggling to stay lit somewhere deep inside. Basically the guy is declaring publicly that he has no interest in doing his job. He thought this legislation was good for GA, presumably still thinks that but won't vote for it based on considerations that have very little to nothing to do w/ GA and the scope of his job. Didn't he make an oath or something? Yeah, I know the legislation is probably a boondoggle and a rip off for GA taxpayers (don't know anything about the specifics but tax breaks intended to benefit primarily one company tend not to be in the public interest) but that doesn't change the analysis. One thing we can probably guess w/ confidence: The NRA gave more to his campaign than Delta did.
This is really good. Some sacred cows slaughtered, but a great (and scary) read nonetheless.
"If you don’t start the revolution, it’s going to be started for you, and it will be started from the other side. It has already started. Someone is already building the gallows your freedoms of speech, movement, desire, and worship will hang from. See, the revolution, the one happening right now, was not just televised; it was everywhere, all at once, it became wallpaper, it became easy to ignore.
There will come a time, soon, after the neo-oligarchs take away your elections and stand under a cross while doing it, that you will wish that rock’n’roll had actually told the truth; you will desperately wish that the revolution you have been crowing about for fifty years hadn’t just been a painted backdrop at a high school production of Hair."
