Honestly, I'm as mad at the Democrats as the Republicans. The fact that the Government is shut down is stupid. R's had 6 months to get in front of this and they failed. It is basic governance, and they've fundamentally failed.

OTOH - The Democrats had 6 months to get in front to the messaging. It's a shit show with each side blaming the other. Didn't every goddamn Democrat have a envelope that said 'Open In Case Of Shutdown" (nope). Now you're fighting for fucking hashtags? Seriously? How the D's can't capitalize on this is beyond me. Oh wait....it isn't beyond me....this is the only Democratic Party I've ever known.

pearlbeer wrote:Honestly, I'm as mad at the Democrats as the Republicans. The fact that the Government is shut down is stupid. R's had 6 months to get in front of this and they failed. It is basic governance, and they've fundamentally failed.

OTOH - The Democrats had 6 months to get in front to the messaging. It's a shit show with each side blaming the other. Didn't every goddamn Democrat have a envelope that said 'Open In Case Of Shutdown" (nope). Now you're fighting for fucking hashtags? Seriously? How the D's can't capitalize on this is beyond me. Oh wait....it isn't beyond me....this is the only Democratic Party I've ever known.

Oh, we're supposed to plan ahead?

But seriously, does anybody really care about a government shutdown? I haven't heard anybody talking about it other than as a political event. I think the government would have to be shut down for weeks before anyone would really notice.

pearlbeer wrote:Honestly, I'm as mad at the Democrats as the Republicans. The fact that the Government is shut down is stupid. R's had 6 months to get in front of this and they failed. It is basic governance, and they've fundamentally failed.

OTOH - The Democrats had 6 months to get in front to the messaging. It's a shit show with each side blaming the other. Didn't every goddamn Democrat have a envelope that said 'Open In Case Of Shutdown" (nope). Now you're fighting for fucking hashtags? Seriously? How the D's can't capitalize on this is beyond me. Oh wait....it isn't beyond me....this is the only Democratic Party I've ever known.

Uh huh.

Meanwhile, Pence gave an outrageously political speech to the troops. I find that stuff to be totally disgusting and simply calling it "yet another violation of norms" doesn't quite capture it.

So if virtually (maybe literally) the entire Republican leadership is complicit in the Russia scandal (which is looking more and more likely), how does that play out?

Smitty wrote:So if virtually (maybe literally) the entire Republican leadership is complicit in the Russia scandal (which is looking more and more likely), how does that play out?

It doesn't, since they are self-governing. Only a massive Democrat win in 2018 moves the needle

Smitty wrote:So if virtually (maybe literally) the entire Republican leadership is complicit in the Russia scandal (which is looking more and more likely), how does that play out?

They are fine. Wait till the memo comes out.

the democratic party needs to clean house of its leadership.

https://theintercept.com/2018/01/23/dcc ... gressives/

tinnitus photography wrote:the democratic party needs to clean house of its leadership.

https://theintercept.com/2018/01/23/dcc ... gressives/

No shit. Keep saying it, maybe it will sink in before it's too late.

beantownbubba wrote:

tinnitus photography wrote:the democratic party needs to clean house of its leadership.

https://theintercept.com/2018/01/23/dcc ... gressives/

No shit. Keep saying it, maybe it will sink in before it's too late.

Last weeks This American Life had a good piece on how lost and tone deaf and protectionist the party is.

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/636/i- ... /act-two-2

BYE FELICIA!

pearlbeer wrote:BYE FELICIA!

So sad that he never got to the bottom of Benghazi. Poor guy

pearlbeer wrote:BYE FELICIA!

now he can spend more time with his family

“Tonight, I call on the congress to empower every Cabinet secretary with the authority to reward good workers—and to remove federal employees who undermine the public trust or fail the American people.”

sounds innocent enough

Zip City wrote:

pearlbeer wrote:BYE FELICIA!

So sad that he never got to the bottom of Benghazi. Poor guy

Ben Ghazi?

He was great in Roadhouse

pearlbeer wrote:BYE FELICIA!

This should be the picture in Webster's accompanying the definition of "smarmy".

Idiots

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/02/us/p ... v=top-news

One has to wonder how much of this shit one can take. I know that not much matters anymore, but something has to matter right? Something...anything?

Hoping, while severely compromising our Intelligence both at home and abroad, this backfires. I think the FISA warrant on Carter Page was renewed like five times.

I read the memo. Snore. A LOT of stuff is conveniently left out. This will do nothing but feed the trolls and tin-foil hat set. What a shame.

It will also be interesting to see Trump answer (or not) the question, "So...hang on...you appointed a dude as your Foreign Policy Advisor who had been under FISA survilance for 2+ years?"

At this point, I just wonder what our collective threshold is for National Embarrassment.

pearlbeer wrote:I read the memo. Snore. A LOT of stuff is conveniently left out. This will do nothing but feed the trolls and tin-foil hat set. What a shame.

At this point, I just wonder what our collective threshold is for National Embarrassment.

I read it too and the selective amnesia over the ongoing investigation of Carter Page dating back to warrants issued in 2013 is astounding. Still this is a test. If this leads to a DOJ bloodletting and it goes unchallenged we're done. Toast. Alternatively it could lead to the end of this administration. I have no sense which way it will go.

Flea wrote:

pearlbeer wrote:BYE FELICIA!

This should be the picture in Webster's accompanying the definition of "smarmy".

Matt Gaetz says, "hold my beer!"

cortez the killer wrote:

But the Koch Brothers got $1,400,000,000 from the tax cut, so it all evens out

Zip City wrote:But the Koch Brothers got $1,400,000,000 from the tax cut, so it all evens out

that'll buy a ton of Costco memberships

whatwouldcooleydo? wrote:

Zip City wrote:But the Koch Brothers got $1,400,000,000 from the tax cut, so it all evens out

that'll buy a ton of Costco memberships

Also quite a few Paul Ryans.

Our next Great American Hero

EDIT: It's fake, but it's so hard to tell anymore