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A slight twist, or maybe it's a synthesis of much of the above, from Tom Nichols in The Atlantic:

"As the January 6 hearings restarted today after the long weekend, I was thinking about the weird, psychotic fear that has overtaken millions of Americans. I include in those millions people who are near and dear to me, friends I have known for years who now seem to speak a different language, a kind of Fox-infused, Gish Galloping, “what-about” patois that makes no sense even if you slow it down or add punctuation.

Such conversations are just part of life in divided America now. We live in a democracy, and there’s no law (nor should there be) against the willing suffocation of one’s own brain cells with television and the internet. But living in an alternate reality is unhealthy—and dangerous, as I realized yet again while watching the January 6 committee hearings and listening to the stories of Republicans, such as Arizona House Speaker Rusty Bowers and others, describing the threats and harassment they have received for doing their duty to the Constitution.

And the threats don’t stop with political figures; families are now in the crosshairs. Representative Adam Kinzinger, for example, tweeted Monday about a letter he received in which the writer threatened not only to kill him, but to kill his wife and infant son.

There have always been unstable people in America, and they have always done frightening things. But there seem to be a lot more of them now. Some of them are genuinely dangerous, but many more are just rage-drunk nihilists who will threaten any public figures targeted by their preferred television hosts or websites, regardless of party or policy.

The more I think about it—and I spent years researching such problems while writing a book about democracy—the more I think that such people are less angry than they are terrified.

Many of you will respond: Of course they’re terrified. They’re scared of demographic change, of cultural shifts, of being looked down upon for being older and uneducated in an increasingly young and educated world.

All true. But I think there’s more to it.

I think the Trump superfans are terrified of being wrong. I suspect they know that for many years they’ve made a terrible mistake—that Trump and his coterie took them to the cleaners and the cognitive dissonance is now rising to ear-splitting, chest-constricting levels. And so they will literally threaten to kill people like Kinzinger (among others) if that’s what it takes to silence the last feeble voice of reason inside themselves.

We know from studies (and from experience as human beings) that being wrong makes us feel uncomfortable. It’s an actual physiological sensation, and when compounded by humiliation, it becomes intolerable. The ego cries out for either silence or assent. In the modern media environment, this fear expresses itself as a demand for the comfort of massive doses of self-justifying rage delivered through the Fox or Newsmax or OAN electronic EpiPen that stills the allergic reaction to truth and reason.

These outlets are eager to oblige. It’s not you, the hosts assure the viewers. It’s them. You made the right decisions years ago and no matter how much it now seems that you were fooled and conned, you are on the side of right and justice.

This therapy works for as long as the patient is glued to the television or computer screen. The moment someone like Bowers or Kinzinger or Liz Cheney appears and attacks the lie, the anxiety and embarrassment rise like reflux in the throat, and it must be stopped, even if it means threatening to kill the messenger.

No one who truly believes they are right threatens to hurt anyone for expressing a contrary view. The snarling threat of violence never comes from people who calmly believe they are in the right. It is always the instant resort of the bully who feels the hot flush of shame rising in the cheeks and the cold rock of fear dropping in the pit of the stomach.

In the film adaptation of the Cold War epic Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, John le Carré’s fictional British intelligence officer George Smiley describes his opposite number, the Soviet spymaster Karla. Smiley knows Karla can be beaten, he says, because Karla “is a fanatic. And the fanatic is always concealing a secret doubt.”

What this means, I regret to say, is that there will be more threats, and more violence, because there will be more truth. It’s going to be a long summer."
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beantownbubba wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 6:30 pm
In the film adaptation of the Cold War epic Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, John le Carré’s fictional British intelligence officer George Smiley describes his opposite number, the Soviet spymaster Karla. Smiley knows Karla can be beaten, he says, because Karla “is a fanatic. And the fanatic is always concealing a secret doubt.”
I've read just enough LeCarre to know that Karla wasn't beaten via his fanaticism (if indeed he was a fanatic) but through his humanity.
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pearlbeer wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:18 pm
Zip City wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:50 am
To add to my previous post about the lie of the American Dream, Trump was masterful at taking the disappointment and anger of the failing middle class and laser focusing it onto perceived threats to success.

Put another way: The American Dream sells the idea that anyone who works hard and lives clean will succeed in life. We all know that’s bullshit, but for the true believers, there are only two reasons one can fail: it’s either your fault, or someone else cheated you out of what you’re owed. Well if I work hard and live clean and see no reward, the it MUST be someone else’s fault.

Enter Trump, who gleefully points out all the people who are stealing your success from you. Mexicans, liberals, blacks, etc. Hell, HE worked hard to win in 2020, so the only way he lost is because the election was STOLEN. It’s all the same narrative.
Agree, with the slight edit....

The American Dream sells the idea that any WHITE CHRISTIAN who works hard and lives clean will succeed in life.
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...but I can play one on TV.
beantownbubba wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:44 pm
The family values voter has to overlook Trump's 3 marriages at least 2 of which played out mostly in the newspapers as well as his serial admitted adultery.
You mean, like Ronald Reagan?
beantownbubba wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:44 pm
The Christians have to overlook Trump's lack of charity, his looting of his own charities and his unchristian attitude towards the disabled, the poor, the African, and others.
So they say, but you can't believe what you read.
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Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:44 pm
The military guys, the military wannabes and the all around macho men have to overlook that Trump was a draft dodger who not only dodged the draft, he did so by pulling strings while continuing to play sports. Given the historical enmity of vets towards draft dodgers this is particularly difficult to understand.
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Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:44 pm
The anti elitist have to overlook the several categories of elite that Trump is a part of: Rich (by way of inheritance to boot), Ivy League degree, NYC born, bred and mostly lived. Plus his Ivy league degree was bought by his father.
Everyone does that, too.
beantownbubba wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:44 pm
Those who admire self-made men and successful businessmen have to ignore Trump's multiple bankruptcies and many failed businesses, including running multiple casinos into the ground, at one point being saved by his father buying over $30 million in chips and not cashing them back in so that Trump could make a required loan repayment. All of the above and below are well known undisputed facts. On the not quite fully proven but almost undoubtedly right page, if Trump had taken his inheritance and deposited it in an unmanaged mutual fund that simply tries to track the S&P 500 by 2016 he would have had at least a couple hundred million more dollars than he actually had which is downright embarrassing for any "genius businessman" or even a mildly successful one.
What do you have against a man who manages his own money without losing it all?
beantownbubba wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:44 pm
The "he's one of us" crowd has to overlook that Trump spent his entire career screwing and making money off of working people. Usually without any basis whatsoever, he would withhold payments, dispute invoices, sue for unfinished or poorly done work, all to force hand to mouth contractors and subcontractors, actual real working people, to take cents on the dollar in order to salvage something.
You'd go after shoddy workmen too, if you'd gone through some of what I have.
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Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:44 pm
The "we're the real patriots" crowd has to overlook Trump's relationship with Russia and specifically w/ Putin. One can discount all one wants the 2016 election interference claims and still understand that Trump cosied up to America's traditional enemy in ways never before seen in this country's history to the detriment of our national security. Trump may actually be right that if he were president, Putin would not have invaded Ukraine, but the reason for that is that Trump would have given him Ukraine and all of NATO for free. Indeed, it is a widely held view that Putin was encouraged to invade Ukraine because of his perception that Trump had so weakened NATO and the "western alliance" generally.
What has the "western alliance" done for me lately, besides stick America's dick in the meat grinder of Iraq and Afghanistan for twenty years?
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I was horrified to realize that I left Trump's connection to Jeffrey Epstein out of my previous post, so I edited the post accordingly.
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The Supreme Court's ruling that Maine must provide funds to private religious schools if it provides funding for secular private schools was such a foregone conclusion that I wasn't going to mention it. But on further thought, a decision this bad ought to be called out. How is it possible that funding religious schools is not an establishment of religion? Forgive me for giving the First Amendment its plain, original meaning*, but it's right there in black and white: "Congress [and the states per longstanding Supreme Court rulings] shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. Giving money to schools founded by religions so that they can teach that religion to its members seems like the very definition of the establishment of religion to me. The Court's reasoning, such as it is, seems to be that excluding religious schools from receiving funds discriminates against religion. Do you see the word "discriminate" in the First Amendment? Me neither.

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Author Chris Pavone explains it all in Two Nights in Lisbon, p. 81:

"America [is] nothing if not cognitively dissonant."
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John A Arkansawyer wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 6:37 pm
beantownbubba wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 6:30 pm
In the film adaptation of the Cold War epic Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, John le Carré’s fictional British intelligence officer George Smiley describes his opposite number, the Soviet spymaster Karla. Smiley knows Karla can be beaten, he says, because Karla “is a fanatic. And the fanatic is always concealing a secret doubt.”
I've read just enough LeCarre to know that Karla wasn't beaten via his fanaticism (if indeed he was a fanatic) but through his humanity.
Yep.

And Karla was also beaten because in order to defeat him, Smiley had to bury his own humanity and become ruthless. Its not a happy choice of analogy.

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beantownbubba wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:44 pm


The anti elitist have to overlook the several categories of elite that Trump is a part of: Rich (by way of inheritance to boot), Ivy League degree, NYC born, bred and mostly lived. Plus his Ivy league degree was bought by his father.

I've always thought the bought degree and obvious lack of genuine education (if he was listening to anything in class he's done a superb job of hiding it) is actually what helps his "anti elite" credentials. When people sneer about "the elite" I suspect they're really talking about an educational "elite" rather than rich people.

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305 Engine wrote:
Thu Jun 23, 2022 11:40 am
beantownbubba wrote:
Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:44 pm


The anti elitist have to overlook the several categories of elite that Trump is a part of: Rich (by way of inheritance to boot), Ivy League degree, NYC born, bred and mostly lived. Plus his Ivy league degree was bought by his father.

I've always thought the bought degree and obvious lack of genuine education (if he was listening to anything in class he's done a superb job of hiding it) is actually what helps his "anti elite" credentials. When people sneer about "the elite" I suspect they're really talking about an educational "elite" rather than rich people.
You're probably right about the bought degree and the obvious lack of genuine education. Trump's fans seem to love when he puts one over on the rest of us and this combination of factors is right in that sweet spot, though I've not thought about it quite that way before

Re the elite, there's definitely a rich elite and there's an educational elite and the term may be sometimes used to apply to one or the other but I'm pretty sure the modern "coastal elites" are disdained both for their wealth and their educations.
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Today's concealed carry decision by the Supreme Court was completely expected. The also expected 6-3 vote continues to chip away at the Court's legitimacy and meaningfulness. While more or less consistent w/ the previous decisions that presaged the outcome, this particular decision is just flat out nuts and reveals the urban/rural divide as perhaps nothing else to date has. That's just what New Yorkers and Bostonians and Chicagoans need: Their friends and neighbors to say nothing of the strangers they're put in close contact w/ every day walking around w/ concealed guns. On what planet is this a good idea?

Just as a by the way, note that the same people who say "what about Chicago?" when the issue of gun violence and gun control is raised are pretty much uniformly on the side of the Court's majority on this one. What will they say when the first annoyed transit rider shoots the guy next to him for brushing past him? "What about Columbine?" "What about Newtown? " And "get off my lawn" has just taken on a whole new totally scary undertone.
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A tip 'o the hat to Title IX on its 50th anniversary. A wonderful example of federal legislation that has had a huge positive impact on the lives of hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of girls and women. The legislation is not perfect and the law of unintended consequences has, as always, asserted itself, but by and large, the law did what it was supposed to do and is still doing it and I don't think the net positive can be disputed.
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Watching the hearings last night, I feel once again presented with the "Mike Pence Paradox" (tm)

The head lawyers at DOJ certainly had clear and compelling testimony and stood up when in mattered. BUT - where were they when all of this was ramping up? Where were they when the impeachment hearing was underway? Isn't this information, a clear attempted coup, something that shouldn't need a Congressional Subpoena to expose?

On the bright side, it is refreshing to picture that dork Jeffrey Clark in his PJs getting raided by the FBI.

Final mini-rant: I'm getting annoyed at the media for sometimes poking fun at the stupidity and ineptitude behind the plot. Sure, it was a clown-car of a coup - but it was still a fucking coup - and we should leave it right there. God knows we don't need to normalize or downplay any more of this crap.
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One more mini rant: Roe v Wade was just overturned. Fuck you, Christianists.
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SCOTUS is just nuking America from orbit right now.
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SCOTUS is just nuking America from orbit right now.
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To dissect this ruling as a matter of legal theory is a waste of time. It’s all pretext. All you need to know about the legal theories at work in the current supreme court is that if states want to restrict your ability to carry a handgun, they are grotesquely exceeding their powers, but if states want to outlaw abortion, well, it is only fair that states have that power.

To portray any of this as the outcome of a coherent, good-faith legal theory would actually make us all dumber. Come on. This is the political outcome of a decades-long political effort by rightwing extremists to influence American law and culture through the courts, since a functional democracy might prevent them from doing so legislatively. (Preventing America from having a functional democracy that would accurately represent the will of the majority of the population, by the way, is part of this very same effort.) Even those pretending that there is a true legal philosophy at play here have to struggle to keep a straight face. “The test is, uh, if we had a seance, can we imagine that a powder-wig-wearing slaveholder with wooden teeth would have imagined this same exact law, word for word, in 1776?”

Come on.

The discussion we need to have about the US supreme court is: what are we planning to do about their power? Because if there is no coherent plan advanced, the default outcome could well be 20 more years of a tiny unaccountable cabal of religious fundamentalists dismantling the entire progressive agenda that was won in the second half of the 20th century. That is not acceptable. The court is now fully in control of people who believe they are on a mission from God to drag America back to the good old days of 1885, when corporations were free to whip who they wanted and noble American men wore six shooters everywhere and women stayed home and had babies whether they liked it or not. It is, I’m very sorry to say, the Democratic party that is going to be responsible for seeing to it that this doesn’t happen. On one side, we have hundreds of millions of Americans who would like to enjoy basic bodily autonomy and rights and not be shot or get cancer from toxic corporate waste. On the other side, we have a half-dozen white Catholic Ivy League Republicans who wear weird robes to work and fully intend to see to it that those hundreds of millions of Americans do not have any of those things. And it’s up to the Democratic party to decide which side they will disappoint.

Five of the six current rightwing supreme court justices were appointed by presidents who lost the popular vote. The Republican senators who vote to confirm them represent a minority of the population. One of the justices, Neil Gorsuch, sits in a seat that was outright stolen, when Mitch McConnell prevented Obama’s nomination of Merrick Garland from proceeding as usual; another justice, Amy Coney Barrett, sits in a seat that she was confirmed for when McConnell reversed that principle and rushed her through before Donald Trump lost his presidency. All in all, we are talking about a wildly unrepresentative group of elitist fringe lunatics, installed in power by the exact opposite of democratic will, accountable only to an imaginary God who instructs them to scrap basic gun control laws in the wake of horrific mass shootings of children, while calling themselves “pro-life”. This is not a foundation strong enough to support a modern nation. Anyone who is not prepared to talk about structural reform should give up their position in public life.

We are well beyond the point at which the typical Democratic “Get out and vote!” messages are anything other than insulting to everyone’s intelligence. Republicans may be greed-driven bigots, but they are also savvy political realists. They have systematically nurtured a caste of preprogrammed ultra-conservative judges, and they have installed them in positions of power through the most ruthless means possible. Today’s supreme court is the highest expression of this 40-year project. Now, those who have pursued this project are coming for their payoff – the end of gun control, the end of legal abortion, the end of voting rights laws, the end of labor rights, the end of corporate regulations of all kinds. If a classroom full of murdered elementary school children is not enough to sway these high priests from their bizarre and dangerous convictions about how America should run, it is time to get more radical about reining this whole thing in.

Adding justices to the supreme court should right now, today, be an urgent mainstream position of the Democratic party. So too should term limits for supreme court justices. These are just basic starting points. These should be accepted as common sense, in the same way that ending the filibuster has slowly come to be. Only bad things will happen, if we do not do these things. Further, more sweeping structural reforms that might have stopped us from finding ourselves in this position in the first place – campaign finance reform, ending gerrymandering, doing away with the electoral college – are equally necessary, but court-specific measures can be done faster. It is hard, I admit, to imagine that our current geriatric, procedure-addicted Democratic party leadership will be able to find it within themselves to propose solutions that are anywhere near adequate to the problem at hand. But conventional wisdom now has to place on all of them the burden of the situation we face: if they are not ready to do the things that would actually fix the problem, no matter how radical those things may be, they are effectively in favor of the problem itself. It is Republican zealots who will end gun control and abortion rights, but every single Democratic senator who decided that packing the court was simply too extreme will have had a hand in helping them, through their utter futility.
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God damn right there is no there there when it comes to alleged "legal theories" behind all the recent outrages. I have been arguing for years that "originalism" is a scam that doesn't stand up to the slightest scrutiny and guess what? It turns out that originalism is a scam that doesn't stand up to the slightest scrutiny.

The thing is that years ago the late Justice Scalia told us everything we need to know about this fantasyland. In response to critics of the Heller 2nd Amendment case (the first of the "modern" reinterpretations of the 2nd Amendment) Scalia, marshalling all of his considerable legal brainpower and nuanced intellectualism said, and I quote, "Get over it." In other words, I don't have to explain anything, hell, I can't justify anything, but my dad can beat up your dad so shut the fuck up already. That is the extent of the intellectual heft of the Supreme Court in 2022.

The other thing about these cases, especially the 2nd Amendment ones, is that one essentially has to believe that the sainted Founding Fathers were imbeciles. There's something kind of counter-intuitive about that.
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pearlbeer wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:31 am
Where were they when the impeachment hearing was underway?
A question we will be asking for a very long time, to which there is probably no good answer
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wow, y'all...just wow. To quote Ruth Langmore, "I don't know sh*t about f*ck" but as an immediate gut response, seems to me that the fanatical republicans are Taliban in christian clothing - what next - removing the right to vote for women, covering them in the burkas of the day...Democrats appear to have absolutely no sense of urgency. Me thinks its all going to get a lot worse before any sense of better. Hope I am wrong
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Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:07 pm
wow, y'all...just wow. To quote Ruth Langmore, "I don't know sh*t about f*ck" but as an immediate gut response, seems to me that the fanatical republicans are Taliban in christian clothing - what next - removing the right to vote for women, covering them in the burkas of the day...Democrats appear to have absolutely no sense of urgency. Me thinks its all going to get a lot worse before any sense of better. Hope I am wrong
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pearlbeer wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:37 pm
blessedcurse wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:07 pm
wow, y'all...just wow. To quote Ruth Langmore, "I don't know sh*t about f*ck" but as an immediate gut response, seems to me that the fanatical republicans are Taliban in christian clothing - what next - removing the right to vote for women, covering them in the burkas of the day...Democrats appear to have absolutely no sense of urgency. Me thinks its all going to get a lot worse before any sense of better. Hope I am wrong
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beantownbubba wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:18 pm
pearlbeer wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:37 pm
blessedcurse wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:07 pm
wow, y'all...just wow. To quote Ruth Langmore, "I don't know sh*t about f*ck" but as an immediate gut response, seems to me that the fanatical republicans are Taliban in christian clothing - what next - removing the right to vote for women, covering them in the burkas of the day...Democrats appear to have absolutely no sense of urgency. Me thinks its all going to get a lot worse before any sense of better. Hope I am wrong
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You forgot the part where kids go hungry and without family before getting shot.
SWAT surrounding SCOTUS and extended security details. While I certainly don't condone violence of any kind, I DO want to scream "We're the ones with the silly pink hats. YOU'RE the ones with the guns!"

vs. the Westboro Church showing up for the last decade and basically being told...."deal with it"

...ugh...what a shity, shitty day. I hope all of you Heathens stay safe and sane.
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beantownbubba wrote:
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The other thing about these cases, especially the 2nd Amendment ones, is that one essentially has to believe that the sainted Founding Fathers were imbeciles.
Ever since I understood the whole slavery thing I came to this conclusion.
and the rest as they say is uh er uh, well somebodies history somewhere?

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Our top priority should be finding the leaker.
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Swamp wrote:
Sat Jun 25, 2022 11:56 am
beantownbubba wrote:
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The other thing about these cases, especially the 2nd Amendment ones, is that one essentially has to believe that the sainted Founding Fathers were imbeciles.
Ever since I understood the whole slavery thing I came to this conclusion.
Fair comment. I guess I've always thought of them as misguided and morally deficient but not necessarily imbecilic but I wouldn't want to have to defend that latter position lol.
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cortez the killer wrote:
Sat Jun 25, 2022 12:17 pm
Our top priority should be finding the leaker.
Poor John Roberts. Check out his concurrence. He's like the shepherd who's lost his flock and gotten lost in the woods at the same time.
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beantownbubba wrote:
Sat Jun 25, 2022 12:38 pm
cortez the killer wrote:
Sat Jun 25, 2022 12:17 pm
Our top priority should be finding the leaker.
Poor John Roberts. Check out his concurrence. He's like the shepherd who's lost his flock and gotten lost in the woods at the same time.
Fuck him, his legacy will be as the leading assclown of the whole bunch.
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Flea wrote:
Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:15 pm
beantownbubba wrote:
Sat Jun 25, 2022 12:38 pm
cortez the killer wrote:
Sat Jun 25, 2022 12:17 pm
Our top priority should be finding the leaker.
Poor John Roberts. Check out his concurrence. He's like the shepherd who's lost his flock and gotten lost in the woods at the same time.
Fuck him, his legacy will be as the leading assclown of the whole bunch.
I was attempting sarcasm. I don't have any sympathy for him. I'm not sure if it rises to the level of irony but it must be hard for him as someone who actually cares about the Court, its history and his place in that history to know that the "Roberts Court" will go down in infamy. OTOH, if the Court keeps going as it has, there may not be anybody who cares enough to make that judgment and write that history.
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