The Neverending Thread for Political Shit

[Flea]

Now, enjoy some Trumpian photochoppery!

[Zip City]

I'll echo what everyone else said regarding Mr. Vance's interview but I do take a bit of exception to:

...these people–my people–are really struggling, and there hasn’t been a single political candidate who speaks to those struggles in a long time. Donald Trump at least tries.

I truly feel that Bernie tries as well. Seems to me, though, that his message doesn't resonate in the same fashion either because of his cultural background or his self-labeling as a Democratic Socialist.

For some people, no matter how poor they are, they still feel like Sanders would be "taking from them to give to someone else". Never mind that THEY would be the likely recipient of that particular spreading of wealth

[Cole Younger]

Possibly. I think it's just as likely that they associate Bernie with the same people they associate Clinton. The people who look down on them and call them stupid, racist, xenophobic, etc.

[Zip City]

Possibly. I think it's just as likely that they associate Bernie with the same people they associate Clinton. The people who look down on them and call them stupid, racist, xenophobic, etc.

Well to be fair, some of them ARE stupid, racist and xenophobic

[Cole Younger]

Possibly. I think it's just as likely that they associate Bernie with the same people they associate Clinton. The people who look down on them and call them stupid, racist, xenophobic, etc.

Well to be fair, some of them ARE stupid, racist and xenophobic

I can always count on you, Zip.

[Flea]

Possibly. I think it's just as likely that they associate Bernie with the same people they associate Clinton. The people who look down on them and call them stupid, racist, xenophobic, etc.

Well to be fair, some of them ARE stupid, racist and xenophobic

Sadly and unfortunately, I think you are both correct.

[Zip City]

Possibly. I think it's just as likely that they associate Bernie with the same people they associate Clinton. The people who look down on them and call them stupid, racist, xenophobic, etc.

Well to be fair, some of them ARE stupid, racist and xenophobic

I can always count on you, Zip.

I didn't say all, or even most. And everyone shouldn't be lumped together and painted in teh same way as the bad ones. But the same can be said for cops, BLM followers, etc. No one likes being labeled

[Cole Younger]

That's fair.

[dee dee]

Good lord Hillary, throw Debbie Wasserman Schultz under the bus as fast as you can.

[Zip City]

Good lord Hillary, throw Debbie Wasserman Schultz under the bus as fast as you can.

Or add her to your campaign staff

[dee dee]

I doubt honorary chair of your 50 state plan means much but it is mos def tone deaf. What a CF

[beantownbubba]

Hmmmm... what's wrong with politics today?

Fake scandals entirely w/out substance? Check
Conspiracy theories running rampant, some of them possibly true?* Check
Fake drama according to the perceived required script resulting in a sacrificial lamb?** Check
Inside the Beltway revolving door bullshit where the song never changes, people just sit in different chairs? Check

Turning nothing into something: A Clinton family specialty since 1992.

*If anything at all matters in this faux scandal it is the possibility that "the Russians did it." If true, that's some seriously bad and scary shit.
** This is no comment on Ms. Schultz's actual abilities which from a distance appear to be fairly minimal. But a circus is a circus even if the clown is a clown.

[Flea]

Good read re: what will be our Archduke Ferdinand moment. Thoughtful and fucking frightening.

https://medium.com/@theonlytoby/history ... .biq1aoo9v

[dee dee]

Hmmmm... what's wrong with politics today?

Fake scandals entirely w/out substance? Check
Conspiracy theories running rampant, some of them possibly true?* Check
Fake drama according to the perceived required script resulting in a sacrificial lamb?** Check
Inside the Beltway revolving door bullshit where the song never changes, people just sit in different chairs? Check

Turning nothing into something: A Clinton family specialty since 1992.

*If anything at all matters in this faux scandal it is the possibility that "the Russians did it." If true, that's some seriously bad and scary shit.
** This is no comment on Ms. Schultz's actual abilities which from a distance appear to be fairly minimal. But a circus is a circus even if the clown is a clown.

I have a really low opinion about the Donald but this seems almost too unbelievable.
7. Here's where it gets more interesting. This is one of a handful of developments that tipped me from seeing all this as just a part of Trump's larger shadiness to something more specific and ominous about the relationship between Putin and Trump. As TPM's Tierney Sneed explained in this article, one of the most enduring dynamics of GOP conventions (there's a comparable dynamic on the Dem side) is more mainstream nominees battling conservative activists over the party platform, with activists trying to check all the hardline ideological boxes and the nominees trying to soften most or all of those edges. This is one thing that made the Trump convention very different. The Trump Camp was totally indifferent to the platform. So party activists were able to write one of the most conservative platforms in history. Not with Trump's backing but because he simply didn't care. With one big exception: Trump's team mobilized the nominee's traditional mix of cajoling and strong-arming on one point: changing the party platform on assistance to Ukraine against Russian military operations in eastern Ukraine. For what it's worth (and it's not worth much) I am quite skeptical of most Republicans call for aggressively arming Ukraine to resist Russian aggression. But the single-mindedness of this focus on this one issue - in the context of total indifference to everything else in the platform - speaks volumes.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/tru ... onnections

[beantownbubba]

Hmmmm... what's wrong with politics today?

Fake scandals entirely w/out substance? Check
Conspiracy theories running rampant, some of them possibly true?* Check
Fake drama according to the perceived required script resulting in a sacrificial lamb?** Check
Inside the Beltway revolving door bullshit where the song never changes, people just sit in different chairs? Check

Turning nothing into something: A Clinton family specialty since 1992.

*If anything at all matters in this faux scandal it is the possibility that "the Russians did it." If true, that's some seriously bad and scary shit.
** This is no comment on Ms. Schultz's actual abilities which from a distance appear to be fairly minimal. But a circus is a circus even if the clown is a clown.

I have a really low opinion about the Donald but this seems almost too unbelievable.
7. Here's where it gets more interesting. This is one of a handful of developments that tipped me from seeing all this as just a part of Trump's larger shadiness to something more specific and ominous about the relationship between Putin and Trump. As TPM's Tierney Sneed explained in this article, one of the most enduring dynamics of GOP conventions (there's a comparable dynamic on the Dem side) is more mainstream nominees battling conservative activists over the party platform, with activists trying to check all the hardline ideological boxes and the nominees trying to soften most or all of those edges. This is one thing that made the Trump convention very different. The Trump Camp was totally indifferent to the platform. So party activists were able to write one of the most conservative platforms in history. Not with Trump's backing but because he simply didn't care. With one big exception: Trump's team mobilized the nominee's traditional mix of cajoling and strong-arming on one point: changing the party platform on assistance to Ukraine against Russian military operations in eastern Ukraine. For what it's worth (and it's not worth much) I am quite skeptical of most Republicans call for aggressively arming Ukraine to resist Russian aggression. But the single-mindedness of this focus on this one issue - in the context of total indifference to everything else in the platform - speaks volumes.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/tru ... onnections

It's way too easy to believe almost anything about Trump so it's important to go slow especially about stuff that feed's one paranoia or fear about him. But I do not discount the possibility that Trump and Putin are somewhat sympatico which might make Trump more open to Russian views and aims than is traditional in US (especially Republican) politics. But my real fear is that Putin has sized Trump up and knows he can eat him for breakfast lunch and dinner before Trump even knows that food is on the table. And if that's true, trying to nudge the election in Trump's direction still seems far fetched but not totally out of the question.

The last thing Trump would ever believe about himself is that he's naive, but when it comes to international relations/foreign policy that's exactly what he is. He just doesn't get the stakes, the motivations, the risks, the history, the animosities, any part of it. He has a really traditional "ugly American" approach, not so much in the rude and loud sense (although I have no problem believing that's true too) but in the belief in American superiority sense - I very seriously doubt that he thinks any foreign leader is his equal, much less superior and overconfidence is a terrible weakness in the international arena. Just 'cause there wasn't enough to keep us up at night already...

[dee dee]

http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/1238-7-ti ... s-were-in/

Good read about a much beloved Three Dimes Down band and politics.

[whatwouldcooleydo?]

I have a really low opinion about the Donald but this seems almost too unbelievable.
7. Here's where it gets more interesting. This is one of a handful of developments that tipped me from seeing all this as just a part of Trump's larger shadiness to something more specific and ominous about the relationship between Putin and Trump. As TPM's Tierney Sneed explained in this article, one of the most enduring dynamics of GOP conventions (there's a comparable dynamic on the Dem side) is more mainstream nominees battling conservative activists over the party platform, with activists trying to check all the hardline ideological boxes and the nominees trying to soften most or all of those edges. This is one thing that made the Trump convention very different. The Trump Camp was totally indifferent to the platform. So party activists were able to write one of the most conservative platforms in history. Not with Trump's backing but because he simply didn't care. With one big exception: Trump's team mobilized the nominee's traditional mix of cajoling and strong-arming on one point: changing the party platform on assistance to Ukraine against Russian military operations in eastern Ukraine. For what it's worth (and it's not worth much) I am quite skeptical of most Republicans call for aggressively arming Ukraine to resist Russian aggression. But the single-mindedness of this focus on this one issue - in the context of total indifference to everything else in the platform - speaks volumes.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/tru ... onnections

seen in Lithuania

[Wolf]

cute

[tinnitus photography]

cute

Wolf, are you OK w/ gay people gettin' it on? or does that send shivers down yr spine?

[Wolf]

cute

Wolf, are you OK w/ gay people gettin' it on? or does that send shivers down yr spine?

i ain't gay but 20 bucks is 20 bucks. that answer your ?. ? but i don't think putin or trump are gay. you know different? you libs put memes like that out to shock. makes ya look like dumbfucks. bless your heart

[tinnitus photography]

i don't care if Putin or Trump wanted to fuck each other. or anyone else, that's their business. not sure w/ calling it a meme has to common sense, but there you go.

republicans are so keen on small govt, aside from when it gets "other" people rights.

[tinnitus photography]

also, lol if that shocks you.


grow up, travel around the world, and meet some new people.

[Smitty]

Fuck the Bernie bros chanting over Elizabeth Warren.

[Wolf]

comical shit this convention. much more so than the repubs but i only watched about 20 mins. of that one

[tinnitus photography]

if you think Sanders' message is making you laugh, you must be a 1%er.

[Wolf]

if you think Sanders' message is making you laugh, you must be a 1%er.

i know it is. no thinkin' about it. he's a fuckin' whack. what's a 1%er? that's biker bullshit right? fuck biker gangs

[Zip City]

Nothing more hilarious than messages of hope rather than fear

[beantownbubba]

Fuck the Bernie bros chanting over Elizabeth Warren.

Did that really happen? To the goddess herself? I don't get it. But those bernie folks are hard to understand anyway.

[John A Arkansawyer]

if you think Sanders' message is making you laugh, you must be a 1%er.

i know it is. no thinkin' about it. he's a fuckin' whack. what's a 1%er? that's biker bullshit right? fuck biker gangs

You really do like yanking peoples' chains, don't you? I can't blame you. It is a funny and pathetic situation. The Republicans did a good job of putting on a bad show. The Democrats have great material but can't even agree on a script. If what little I saw of the Democratic Convention tonight is typical of the week, then I think Trump wins this round on points. Which is a terrible way to kick off the campaign season.

[whatwouldcooleydo?]

cute

Wolf, are you OK w/ gay people gettin' it on? or does that send shivers down yr spine?

i ain't gay but 20 bucks is 20 bucks. that answer your ?. ? but i don't think putin or trump are gay. you know different? you libs put memes like that out to shock. makes ya look like dumbfucks. bless your heart

if you think the point of that mural is that Trump and Putin are gay then you might be the dumbfuck you called "us ibs"