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R.I.P - Charlie Daniels

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:15 pm
by Howlinwolf
Sad news out of Hermitage Tennessee this morning that beloved musician Charlie Daniels passed.

83 years old and still rockin. He suffered a stroke (second one this year). He will be missed but his music will live on forever.

R.I.P Mr Daniels, thank you for your music and being a fine human being. A TRUE American

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Re: R.I.P - Charlie Daniels

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 5:09 am
by Swamp
We are devastated. :cry: CDB was my first show and the main reason I saw Skynyrd in '75 as they were one of the opening acts. Most likly why I saw Clapton also. One of my favorite shows was CDB, J Geils and Yes. RIP Mr Daniels.

Re: R.I.P - Charlie Daniels

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:58 am
by Cole Younger
When I saw this yesterday I was sad, and still am, it wasn’t surprised. I had been thinking recently that it probably wouldn’t be much longer.

I saw Charlie three times over the years and he out on a great show every time. Two years ago we saw him in Columbus with The Marshall Tucker Band and Travis Tritt. The Marshall Tucker Band was actually much better than I expected despite their advanced age and although I’m not much of a Travis Tritt fan he was pretty good in a live setting. But Charlie, at eighth something years old stole the show by a wide margin. I’m much more a fan of his early material and while he didn’t play a lot of that beyond playing Trudy the second song of the night, it was a real good show.

He was a good man and spoke his mind regardless of whether or not people were going to like what he had to say. I respected him for that.

It’s weird how these things happen but Saturday we were on the way to my brother in law’s for our Fourth of July celebration and my wife played Trudy from her playlist. The kids loved it and I remember thinking we probably wouldn’t have Charlie much longer. Two days later he was gone.

RIP

Re: R.I.P - Charlie Daniels

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:37 am
by chuckrh
RIP. For me one of those guys I have to separate the music from the message. I'm guilty of not doing a good job of that in these times. For instance, I have a friend of 30 years that I can't currently talk to without getting angry. Some very warped interpretations of what America means nowadays. It's like the last throes of the British empire. Going to be a long road getting back if it can be done at all.

Re: R.I.P - Charlie Daniels

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:38 am
by Beaverdam
Currently I’m listening to Te John, Greese, and Wolfman.

I think that the first CD’s that I bought, when CDs were a new fangled thing, were REM (Out of Time) and CDB’s Greatest hits. According to memory, I received my first stereo in eighth grade, complete with two tape decks, an am/fm radio, a RECORD player, and a one disc CD player.

I think that I heard Uneasy Rider a few times on the radio, and eventually taped it from the radio then bought the cd. Charlie Daniels is so much more that the Devil Went Down to Georgia, but y’all know that! Musical literacy is never something which is lacking among this board’s members.

I bet the fiddle sounds good in heaven this morning...

Re: R.I.P - Charlie Daniels

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 8:31 pm
by tinnitus photography
and spoke his mind regardless of whether or not people were going to like what he had to say. I respected him for that.
seems like a pretty low bar for earning respect, tbh.

Re: R.I.P - Charlie Daniels

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:52 am
by LBRod
tinnitus photography wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 8:31 pm
and spoke his mind regardless of whether or not people were going to like what he had to say. I respected him for that.
seems like a pretty low bar for earning respect, tbh.
Sounds like you can't respect anyone with whom you disagree.

Re: R.I.P - Charlie Daniels

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:16 am
by Howlinwolf
A few of us were lucky to catch this going down ten years ago at the Ryman.

https://www.jambase.com/article/charlie ... panic-2010

Classic!

Re: R.I.P - Charlie Daniels

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:44 pm
by tinnitus photography
LBRod wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:52 am
tinnitus photography wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 8:31 pm
and spoke his mind regardless of whether or not people were going to like what he had to say. I respected him for that.
seems like a pretty low bar for earning respect, tbh.
Sounds like you can't respect anyone with whom you disagree.
that would be in an incorrect position to assume. let's go to the extreme.

hitler had some decent things to say. put that in context of your quote.


not all statements need to be respected, and fuck charlie for being a dependable racist redneck mofo.

Re: R.I.P - Charlie Daniels

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:49 pm
by chuckrh
tinnitus photography wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:44 pm
LBRod wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:52 am
tinnitus photography wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 8:31 pm


seems like a pretty low bar for earning respect, tbh.
Sounds like you can't respect anyone with whom you disagree.
that would be in an incorrect position to assume. let's go to the extreme.

hitler had some decent things to say. put that in context of your quote.


not all statements need to be respected, and fuck charlie for being a dependable racist redneck mofo.
Right on! Upon further reflection, I take back what I said in earlier post. It's been my nature to be diplomatic but fuck that. We're in a war against ignorance & it's time to take a stand. The middle ground is gone. Appeasement has been a huge factor in getting us where we are now.

Re: R.I.P - Charlie Daniels

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:05 pm
by LBRod
tinnitus photography wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:44 pm
that would be in an incorrect position to assume. let's go to the extreme.

hitler had some decent things to say. put that in context of your quote.


not all statements need to be respected, and fuck charlie for being a dependable racist redneck mofo.
Fair enough. I enjoyed Charlie in the 70's, and stupid political rants as an old codger doesn't change that.

Re: R.I.P - Charlie Daniels

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:23 am
by Swamp
chuckrh wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:49 pm

Appeasement has been a huge factor in getting us where we are now.
Our forefathers, who everybody respects, put us here.

Re: R.I.P - Charlie Daniels

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:30 am
by Swamp
Better burn your "Nashville Skyline" albums.

Re: R.I.P - Charlie Daniels

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 7:00 am
by chuckrh
Swamp wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:23 am
chuckrh wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:49 pm

Appeasement has been a huge factor in getting us where we are now.
Our forefathers, who everybody respects, put us here.
Define everybody. History may end up judging us a failed experiment in the long run.

Re: R.I.P - Charlie Daniels

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:15 pm
by jr29
What did Charlie ever do that was that racist ? I honestly don't know.

He fucking ruled for 12-15 years. His work in the late 1960's through the 1970's is some of my favorite shit ever.
If I can give Chuck Berry and Jerry Lee a pass for their behavior then I can probably do the same for Charlie.

Re: R.I.P - Charlie Daniels

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 7:12 pm
by Flea
LBRod wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:05 pm
tinnitus photography wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:44 pm
that would be in an incorrect position to assume. let's go to the extreme.

hitler had some decent things to say. put that in context of your quote.


not all statements need to be respected, and fuck charlie for being a dependable racist redneck mofo.
Fair enough. I enjoyed Charlie in the 70's, and stupid political rants as an old codger doesn't change that.

That's how I feel about Ted Nugent's early career. I can still crank the shit out of Stranglehold and rock out without guilt.

Re: R.I.P - Charlie Daniels

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 7:25 pm
by chuckrh
jr29 wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:15 pm
What did Charlie ever do that was that racist ? I honestly don't know.

He fucking ruled for 12-15 years. His work in the late 1960's through the 1970's is some of my favorite shit ever.
If I can give Chuck Berry and Jerry Lee a pass for their behavior then I can probably do the same for Charlie.
https://www.thecinemaholic.com/fact-che ... -a-racist/

Re: R.I.P - Charlie Daniels

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 7:28 pm
by chuckrh
Flea wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 7:12 pm
LBRod wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:05 pm
tinnitus photography wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:44 pm
that would be in an incorrect position to assume. let's go to the extreme.

hitler had some decent things to say. put that in context of your quote.


not all statements need to be respected, and fuck charlie for being a dependable racist redneck mofo.
Fair enough. I enjoyed Charlie in the 70's, and stupid political rants as an old codger doesn't change that.

That's how I feel about Ted Nugent's early career. I can still crank the shit out of Stranglehold and rock out without guilt.
Try the jam out part on U2 "Bullet the Blue Sky" instead. They totally lifted it from Turd Nugent. You want to see something really funny, tell a hardcore U2 fan that. Their faces change into non human colours.

Re: R.I.P - Charlie Daniels

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:18 pm
by jr29
chuckrh wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 7:25 pm
jr29 wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:15 pm
What did Charlie ever do that was that racist ? I honestly don't know.

He fucking ruled for 12-15 years. His work in the late 1960's through the 1970's is some of my favorite shit ever.
If I can give Chuck Berry and Jerry Lee a pass for their behavior then I can probably do the same for Charlie.
https://www.thecinemaholic.com/fact-che ... -a-racist/
That is pretty weak evidence IMO.
My grandmother and her family were sharecroppers in southeast Missouri when she was a kid. She picked cotton and she still talks about it. Should I tell her she is out of touch ?

Re: R.I.P - Charlie Daniels

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:21 am
by chuckrh
jr29 wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:18 pm
chuckrh wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 7:25 pm
jr29 wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:15 pm
What did Charlie ever do that was that racist ? I honestly don't know.

He fucking ruled for 12-15 years. His work in the late 1960's through the 1970's is some of my favorite shit ever.
If I can give Chuck Berry and Jerry Lee a pass for their behavior then I can probably do the same for Charlie.
https://www.thecinemaholic.com/fact-che ... -a-racist/
That is pretty weak evidence IMO.
My grandmother and her family were sharecroppers in southeast Missouri when she was a kid. She picked cotton and she still talks about it. Should I tell her she is out of touch ?
It was just an example. For me, being a Trump supporter is enough. He & his ilk/supporters have made this country a pariah. No reflection on you or anyone else who likes his music, I just can't support it. Add to that, I live just about as far away from the south as you can get in the country outside of Alaska. So it wasn't really part of my musical past. Heard some stuff on radio back in the day & was always "meh" about it. The evidence was from a quick google search. I didn't waste a lot of time on it.

Re: R.I.P - Charlie Daniels

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:11 am
by Swamp

Re: R.I.P - Charlie Daniels

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:29 am
by cortez the killer
Swamp wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:30 am
Better burn your "Nashville Skyline" albums.
Cancel The Dylan!!!

Re: R.I.P - Charlie Daniels

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:45 am
by jr29
Charlie played with Leonard Cohen quite a bit too in the late 1960's and early 1970's too.
I'm not sure if that makes Cohen complicit or ignorant or maybe both.

Re: R.I.P - Charlie Daniels

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:30 pm
by chuckrh
jr29 wrote:
Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:45 am
Charlie played with Leonard Cohen quite a bit too in the late 1960's and early 1970's too.
I'm not sure if that makes Cohen complicit or ignorant or maybe both.
Your words, not mine.

Re: R.I.P - Charlie Daniels

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:41 am
by tinnitus photography
Flea wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 7:12 pm
LBRod wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:05 pm
tinnitus photography wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:44 pm
that would be in an incorrect position to assume. let's go to the extreme.

hitler had some decent things to say. put that in context of your quote.


not all statements need to be respected, and fuck charlie for being a dependable racist redneck mofo.
Fair enough. I enjoyed Charlie in the 70's, and stupid political rants as an old codger doesn't change that.

That's how I feel about Ted Nugent's early career. I can still crank the shit out of Stranglehold and rock out without guilt.
i still cop to digging "Snakeskin Cowboys" too.

Re: R.I.P - Charlie Daniels

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:12 pm
by pearlbeer
jr29 wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:18 pm
chuckrh wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 7:25 pm
jr29 wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:15 pm
What did Charlie ever do that was that racist ? I honestly don't know.

He fucking ruled for 12-15 years. His work in the late 1960's through the 1970's is some of my favorite shit ever.
If I can give Chuck Berry and Jerry Lee a pass for their behavior then I can probably do the same for Charlie.
https://www.thecinemaholic.com/fact-che ... -a-racist/
That is pretty weak evidence IMO.
My grandmother and her family were sharecroppers in southeast Missouri when she was a kid. She picked cotton and she still talks about it. Should I tell her she is out of touch ?
Now, now....let's all be nice in here. Maybe just agree to disagree? New topic: FACT - the Devil's solo was better.

Re: R.I.P - Charlie Daniels

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:59 am
by LBRod
pearlbeer wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:12 pm
FACT - the Devil's solo was better.
Amen

Re: R.I.P - Charlie Daniels

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:53 pm
by Howlinwolf
Really don't care about all the negativity - but I do know that CDB's "Saddle Tramp" and "Fire On The Mountain" are two of the finest Southern Rock n Roll albums ever.

Re: R.I.P - Charlie Daniels

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:10 pm
by Cole Younger
Never in a million years did I think somebody would stop and take the time to pick apart my saying I respected Charlie Daniels for speaking his mind regardless of who it offended. I do t know why you can’t even have a thread paying respect to someone who passed on anymore without people acting like pricks.

Every time Patterson Hood opens his pie hole and starts committing out political opinions a lot of people act like he’s doing something brave or like he even really knows what he’s talking about. Why? He’s on the right side.


And accusing Charlie Daniels of being a racist is about the stupidest damn thing I’ve ever heard. People who are obsessed with racism are usually racists.

Re: R.I.P - Charlie Daniels

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:54 pm
by chuckrh
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