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Another invalid R&RHoF ballot omits Warren Zevon

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:24 pm
by John A Arkansawyer
No reason to bury the lede, right? So here's the list, with my five favorites at the top:

Nina Simone
Sister Rosetta Tharpe
Link Wray
The Meters
Eurythmics

or maybe

The Cars
MC5
The Zombies

but not

Bon Jovi
Kate Bush
Depeche Mode
Dire Straits
J. Geils Band
Judas Priest
LL Cool J
Moody Blues
Radiohead
Rage Against the Machine
Rufus featuring Chaka Khan

Okay, Rufus/Chaka Khan too, in a different year.

I thought this was a very strong group. I'm usually fishing for someone to round out my top five. This time, each and every one of the first four up there (each subgroup is in alphabetical order) is unquestionably deserving: Nina Simone, Sister Rosetta Tharpe, Link Wray, and The Meters. All they might lack is fame. And Link Wray even played rock and roll! ;-)

ETA:

Q: What do the list of nominees for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and your haircut have in common?
A: They are both invalid.

Re: Another invalid R&RHoF ballot omits Warren Zevon

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:13 am
by Zip City
radiohead should be first ballot HOFers. One of the best bands of the past 25 years

Re: Another invalid R&RHoF ballot omits Warren Zevon

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:25 am
by scotto
Sister Rosetta Tharpe should have been in long ago. Her singing/guitar playing was hugely influential in the gospel strain of rock 'n' roll's heritage.

Re: Another invalid R&RHoF ballot omits Warren Zevon

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:26 am
by whatwouldcooleydo?
I know they'll get in, but Bon Jovi have no business being in the HOF. At least not in a legitimate HOF

Re: Another invalid R&RHoF ballot omits Warren Zevon

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:10 am
by chuckrh
enjoy every sandwich

Re: Another invalid R&RHoF ballot omits Warren Zevon

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:27 am
by Rocky
Heard Let's Go! on the ride into work this morning. 3:30 of pop radio bliss.

Good grief how are the Cars not in the Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame.

Warren Zevon
Little Feat
Foreigner
Blue Oyster Cult
J. Geils Band

are also not in by the way.

Re: Another invalid R&RHoF ballot omits Warren Zevon

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:29 am
by John A Arkansawyer
Rocky wrote:Heard Let's Go! on the ride into work this morning. 3:30 of pop radio bliss.

Good grief how are the Cars not in the Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame.

Warren Zevon
Little Feat
Foreigner
Blue Oyster Cult
J. Geils Band

are also not in by the way.
Zevon and Little Feat are grave injustices, and I'm rooting for BÖC whether they're deserving or not. Hell, nobody's deserving, right?

Re: Another invalid R&RHoF ballot omits Warren Zevon

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:43 am
by Iowan
Radiohead and Rage are first ballot.

Re: Another invalid R&RHoF ballot omits Warren Zevon

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:53 am
by Tequila Cowboy
I always expect the Zevon slight, I didn't expect the Soundgarden slight. You would think they were a lock this year after Chris Cornell's passing.

Re: Another invalid R&RHoF ballot omits Warren Zevon

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:06 am
by Cubfan06
Iowan wrote:Radiohead and Rage are first ballot.
I believe they both should be. As much of a deserved critics darling as they have been since OK Computer, Radiohead is a no doubter. Does Rage get held out due to their genre of music is less friendly and that their catalog wasn't that extensive? We'll see.

Re: Another invalid R&RHoF ballot omits Warren Zevon

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:03 pm
by Howlinwolf
No Iron Maiden - what a freckin shame. Sell out concerts all over the globe

Re: Another invalid R&RHoF ballot omits Warren Zevon

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:34 pm
by whatwouldcooleydo?
I disagree that Rage is first ballot

No way in hell Foreigner should be in the HOF.

Re: Another invalid R&RHoF ballot omits Warren Zevon

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:01 pm
by Iowan
whatwouldcooleydo? wrote:I disagree that Rage is first ballot

No way in hell Foreigner should be in the HOF.
Disagree that they will be or should be?

Re: Another invalid R&RHoF ballot omits Warren Zevon

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:06 pm
by whatwouldcooleydo?
Iowan wrote:
whatwouldcooleydo? wrote:I disagree that Rage is first ballot

No way in hell Foreigner should be in the HOF.
Disagree that they will be or should be?
Sorry, was posting from phone and should have been more clear: should be

Re: Another invalid R&RHoF ballot omits Warren Zevon

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:27 pm
by Rocky
whatwouldcooleydo? wrote:No way in hell Foreigner should be in the HOF.
More deserving than Laura Nyro, Lloyd Price, Gene Pitney, Kiss, Percy Sledge and Madonna?

That's cool man. We can still be friends. :mrgreen:

Re: Another invalid R&RHoF ballot omits Warren Zevon

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:36 pm
by whatwouldcooleydo?
Rocky wrote:
whatwouldcooleydo? wrote:No way in hell Foreigner should be in the HOF.
More deserving than Laura Nyro, Lloyd Price, Gene Pitney, Kiss, Percy Sledge and Madonna?

That's cool man. We can still be friends. :mrgreen:
Not if you're going to bat for Foreigner :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Another invalid R&RHoF ballot omits Warren Zevon

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:53 pm
by Rocky
OK but this was your idea.

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Re: Another invalid R&RHoF ballot omits Warren Zevon

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:05 pm
by whatwouldcooleydo?
Rocky wrote:OK but this was your idea.

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Another invalid R&RHoF ballot omits Warren Zevon

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:43 pm
by whatwouldcooleydo?
Todd Rundgren isn't in the HOF, and isn't even on the ballot this year. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Re: Another invalid R&RHoF ballot omits Warren Zevon

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:26 pm
by Zip City
I've yet to read a compelling argument about why the J. Geils Band even belongs on the ballot

Re: Another invalid R&RHoF ballot omits Warren Zevon

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:30 pm
by Rocky
I Love It. Foreigner is Now Illegal. :mrgreen:

What the Hell I'm bored waiting for the Port Chester show to start,

Perhaps it’s time for a reassessment of the music career of the band Foreigner. Or maybe it’s time to get another beer.

Well let’s start here. Their first record is as good as any debut album in rock history.
Here are 2 songs from the first record.




It’s like we’ve forgotten as a society of rock fans what a great singer Lou Gramm from up state New York is!

Their entire debut recording and songs like Double Vision, Head Games, Waiting On A Girl Like You, Dirty White Boy, etc. are all catchy, well crafted songs. All they had was 4 quality records. That was all. They had others, sure, both they’re pretty forgettable.

We all understand that overexposure to anything is a bad thing and Foreigner did get an awful lot of airplay at the time and ad naseum now on Classic Rock stations. In that way they are the victims of their own success.

I want to be completely clear here. I am not saying that Foreigner is an iconic or terribly important band. I’m saying they are just as deserving of being in the Rock ‘ Roll Hall of Fame as one hit wonders Gene Pitney, Lloyd Price or Percy Sledge, or any number of the myriad of doo wop groups that are in or Madonna or James Taylor.

Plus there’s this bonus – They played rock n’ roll.

Re: Another invalid R&RHoF ballot omits Warren Zevon

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:00 am
by John A Arkansawyer
whatwouldcooleydo? wrote:Todd Rundgren isn't in the HOF, and isn't even on the ballot this year. :roll: :roll: :roll:
I keep forgetting that. It makes no sense. It does not compute.

Re: Another invalid R&RHoF ballot omits Warren Zevon

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:04 am
by John A Arkansawyer
Rocky wrote:I want to be completely clear here. I am not saying that Foreigner is an iconic or terribly important band. I’m saying they are just as deserving of being in the Rock ‘ Roll Hall of Fame as one hit wonders Gene Pitney, Lloyd Price or Percy Sledge, or any number of the myriad of doo wop groups that are in or Madonna or James Taylor.
Since this time you omit Laura Nyro, I'll grit my teeth over Percy Sledge in the spirit of compromise and agree with you.

Re: Another invalid R&RHoF ballot omits Warren Zevon

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:50 pm
by whatwouldcooleydo?
Rocky wrote:Their first record is as good as any debut album in rock history.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists ... e-20130322

Re: Another invalid R&RHoF ballot omits Warren Zevon

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:42 pm
by tinnitus photography
i seriously question why the Eurhythmics even got nominated.

Cars, Meters, Radiohead, Priest. i'm good w/ those four. i would guess Simone or Tharpe might get in.

Re: Another invalid R&RHoF ballot omits Warren Zevon

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 9:20 am
by worrierking
John A Arkansawyer wrote:No reason to bury the lede, right? So here's the list, with my five favorites at the top:


Q: What do the list of nominees for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and your haircut have in common?
A: They are both invalid.
This made me smile (and it hurts when I smile).

Re: Another invalid R&RHoF ballot omits Warren Zevon

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 9:47 am
by John A Arkansawyer
tinnitus photography wrote:i seriously question why the Eurhythmics even got nominated.
Because they're better than Madonna?

Re: Another invalid R&RHoF ballot omits Warren Zevon

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 9:50 am
by John A Arkansawyer
worrierking wrote:
John A Arkansawyer wrote:No reason to bury the lede, right? So here's the list, with my five favorites at the top:


Q: What do the list of nominees for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and your haircut have in common?
A: They are both invalid.
This made me smile (and it hurts when I smile).
If you have any trouble getting your dancing license renewed, give my dog a call. He'll shake a few hands and you'll be back in the high life again. It'll kill ya.

Re: Another invalid R&RHoF ballot omits Warren Zevon

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 10:19 am
by Zip City
John A Arkansawyer wrote:
tinnitus photography wrote:i seriously question why the Eurhythmics even got nominated.
Because they're better than Madonna?
If you're bringing personal taste into the conversation, it won't go anywhere.

Re: Another invalid R&RHoF ballot omits Warren Zevon

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:39 pm
by Rocky
LOTS of great debut albums on this list!

Hey I recognize that mine is a minority opinion. How truly boring the world would be if we all had the same backgrounds, tastes and opinions.

Just curious if you listened to the tracks I posted. (It’s kind of hard to remember all of the album cuts from records that were released 40 years ago.)

I guess I’ll have to be satisfied with Mick Jones and Lou Gramm being in The Songwriter’s Hall of Fame, as they were inducted in 2013.