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Tequila Cowboy wrote:
Smitty wrote:Just saw it; no Gourds? And goddamn Avett Brothers in the top ten?!?

After a quick look over, it's about half right, half ridiculous. If you're gonna include pre alt country bands like the Mekons, Jason and the Scorchers, Lone Justice etc you may as well go back to Gram.
I get Gram as a progenitor but I've always fought the notion that Uncle Tupelo was the first in the genre instead believing it was Jason & the Scorchers. There is no alt-country without them and I can't say there's no Jason & the Scorchers without Gram.
Maybe not, but they didn't exist in a vacuum. At the same time they were punking up country in Nashville, so we're bands in LA and Texas, among other places. If you go that route then you have to include the other cowpunk and roots bands that came up alongside or even before the Scorchers, that's why I prefer to start it with UT. Otherwise it gets extremely tangled about how far you stretch it, which is the problem with this list.
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My favorite album from that pre-alt country era is probably Danny and Dusty's Lost Weekend.

Los Lobos, Dwight Yoakam, the Replacements, the Georgia Satellites and X all factor in as well
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Smitty wrote:My favorite album from that pre-alt country era is probably Danny and Dusty's Lost Weekend.

Los Lobos, Dwight Yoakam, the Replacements, the Georgia Satellites and X all factor in as well
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Tequila Cowboy wrote:Another take on this list

http://ajaxdinerbookclub.com/2016/08/08 ... its-by-me/
He's parsing alt.country vs Anericana, and his substitutions could still be picked apart on those lines.
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Zip City wrote:
Tequila Cowboy wrote:Another take on this list

http://ajaxdinerbookclub.com/2016/08/08 ... its-by-me/
He's parsing alt.country vs Anericana, and his substitutions could still be picked apart on those lines.
with the possible exception of Lucinda Williams I don't think any of his additions could be called Americana, at least not overtly so.
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Tequila Cowboy wrote:
Zip City wrote:
Tequila Cowboy wrote:Another take on this list

http://ajaxdinerbookclub.com/2016/08/08 ... its-by-me/
He's parsing alt.country vs Anericana, and his substitutions could still be picked apart on those lines.
with the possible exception of Lucinda Williams I don't think any of his additions could be called Americana, at least not overtly so.
Some that he left on could, though. Heartbreaker for starters
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To me, Jason and the Scorchers are alt-country the way The Who is punk.

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tinnitus photography wrote:
Smitty wrote:If you're gonna include pre alt country bands like the Mekons, Jason and the Scorchers, Lone Justice etc you may as well go back to Gram.

except there's about a decade or so that separates them.


who was flying the flag for the sound in, say, 1979?
jj cale

if that's the sound you are talking about.

or is jjc early weirdo fringe?

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Iowan wrote:To me, Jason and the Scorchers are alt-country the way The Who is punk.
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My least favorite Hayes Carll album is the one that makes the cut, and leaving out Todd Snider and Turnpike Troubadours seems like egregious oversights, but that’s not a bad list otherwise.

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With all due respect to Lucinda, Car Wheels is in no way the #1 album
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Zip City wrote:
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With all due respect to Lucinda, Car Wheels is in no way the #1 album
IMO not even the #1 Lucinda album.
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Car Wheels wouldn't be my #1 Alt-Country album, but it's not really a controversial choice. I imagine it would be a Top 10 album on many Alt-Country fans' lists.
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No argument from me about Car Wheels at #1. Putting this year's debut by Wednesday at 16 is ridiculous though.
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Clams wrote:
Mon Jun 26, 2023 12:52 pm
No argument from me about Car Wheels at #1. Putting this year's debut by Wednesday at 16 is ridiculous though.
Wow that's comical.
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Clams wrote:
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Putting this year's debut by Wednesday at 16 is ridiculous though.
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Clams wrote:
Mon Jun 26, 2023 12:52 pm
No argument from me about Car Wheels at #1. Putting this year's debut by Wednesday at 16 is ridiculous though.
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Zip City wrote:
Mon Jun 26, 2023 4:17 pm
Clams wrote:
Mon Jun 26, 2023 12:52 pm
No argument from me about Car Wheels at #1. Putting this year's debut by Wednesday at 16 is ridiculous though.
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Clams wrote:No argument from me about Car Wheels at #1. Putting this year's debut by Wednesday at 16 is ridiculous though.
Yeah, that shocked me. Forgot about that.

It’s great, but Christ, let it marinate a little.

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Car Wheels isn’t my #1, but it’s a very reasonable pick. Especially when you assume there’s at least a little desire to not put a white man at the top, and I suspect Paste is going to skew towards a more woke sensibility (I have no issue with that). For example, I don’t recall any Ryan Adams in the list, and I don’t care how awful of a person he is, Stranger’s Almanac needs to be here.

I think the best alt-country album of all time is Trace. My favorite is Decoration Day.

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Clams wrote:
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No argument from me about Car Wheels at #1. Putting this year's debut by Wednesday at 16 is ridiculous though.
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Waxahatchee, Big Thief and Wednesday are all to high.
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Iowan wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 6:10 pm
Car Wheels isn’t my #1, but it’s a very reasonable pick. Especially when you assume there’s at least a little desire to not put a white man at the top, and I suspect Paste is going to skew towards a more woke sensibility (I have no issue with that). For example, I don’t recall any Ryan Adams in the list, and I don’t care how awful of a person he is, Stranger’s Almanac needs to be here.

I think the best alt-country album of all time is Trace. My favorite is Decoration Day.
Strangers is like an unquestioned top 5 on a list like this, IMO. I would probably say Anodyne is the best alt-county album but I wouldn't argue with Trace or No Depression, either. (I honestly am not even arguing with Car Wheels for that matter)
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Zip City wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 6:56 pm
Waxahatchee, Big Thief and Wednesday are all to high.
I’ll defend the placement of Saint Cloud. I think that record is completely brilliant and stands up very well. The others are a bit aggressive, or at least premature.
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Mundane Mayhem wrote:
Sat Jul 01, 2023 12:57 pm
Zip City wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 6:56 pm
Waxahatchee, Big Thief and Wednesday are all to high.
I’ll defend the placement of Saint Cloud. I think that record is completely brilliant and stands up very well. The others are a bit aggressive, or at least premature.
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Jonicont wrote:
Sat Jul 01, 2023 6:13 pm
Mundane Mayhem wrote:
Sat Jul 01, 2023 12:57 pm
Zip City wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 6:56 pm
Waxahatchee, Big Thief and Wednesday are all to high.
I’ll defend the placement of Saint Cloud. I think that record is completely brilliant and stands up very well. The others are a bit aggressive, or at least premature.
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I think Paste mistakenly put Waxahachie on the wrong list. They meant to include it on the “50 best alt country records for taking a snooze" list but put it here by mistake. :)
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50 records is too many. :lol:

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Clams wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 10:29 am
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Jonicont wrote:
Sat Jul 01, 2023 6:13 pm
Mundane Mayhem wrote:
Sat Jul 01, 2023 12:57 pm


I’ll defend the placement of Saint Cloud. I think that record is completely brilliant and stands up very well. The others are a bit aggressive, or at least premature.
👍
I think Paste mistakenly put Waxahachie on the wrong list. They meant to include it on the “50 best alt country records for taking a snooze" list but put it here by mistake. :)
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