Re: Hip Hop - Yes or No?
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 7:24 pm
Princess Diana tribute? There can only be one-
As for the thread question, no.
As for the thread question, no.
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Kudzu Guillotine wrote:Of course , everyone is entitled to their own opinion but one has to wonder if he says these type of things just to stir the pot, sort of like when he called Elton John out years ago for rewriting the lyrics for "Candle In the Wind" in light of the passing of Princess Diana ("His writing is limited to songs for dead blondes"). He also slams Black Sabbath and Metallica in the interview linked to below. Recent comments he made about Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band were taken out of context by nearly every media outlet that reported on the interview, conveniently leaving out his thoughts on Their Satanic Majesties Request, which he also slammed.
“Rap — so many words, so little said. What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there. All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.”
- Keith Richards, New York Daily News
I've made that argument before. I compared to him to Cobain in terms of his role in...wait for it...a watershed moment in music history.Zip City wrote:So, is Dr. Dre the most important figure in the history of hip hop? I say yes
Rapper/Producer/Mentor/Entrepreneur quadruple threatCole Younger wrote:I've made that argument before. I compared to him to Cobain in terms of his role in...wait for it...a watershed moment in music history.Zip City wrote:So, is Dr. Dre the most important figure in the history of hip hop? I say yes
Gil Scott Heron was amazing. Definitely one of the first rappers.Markalanbishop wrote:Didn't know it was considered hip hop at the time, but a group of us listened to The Last Poets and Gil Scott-Heron all the time in the early 70's. Incredible stuff. I'm always looking for the beat, whatever the genre. Probably why no singer/songwriter types really do it for me. Anyway, yes to hip hop. But does anyone have a workable definition?
Yep. I would say that as important a figure as he is in music history as a performer and producer, what he has done as a mentor/finder of new talent is an even bigger deal. The list of people he has "discovered" and people who owe him a career is amazing. I don't think it's crazy to wonder if there would have ever been an Eminem as we know him without Dre. Considering Eminem's talent that might seem like a silly thing to ponder on the surface. But talented or not, who else with Dre's credibility would have really given a white rapper a serious look in the mid 90s? Eminem probably would have still had some form of a career eventually. But I don't think there is any way he would have ever been what he became without Dre. The level of credibility that gave him in a black art form to have someone as respected as Dr. Dre in his corner can't be overstated in my opinion and it was that at least as much as his talent that propelled him to super stardom.Zip City wrote:Rapper/Producer/Mentor/Entrepreneur quadruple threatCole Younger wrote:I've made that argument before. I compared to him to Cobain in terms of his role in...wait for it...a watershed moment in music history.Zip City wrote:So, is Dr. Dre the most important figure in the history of hip hop? I say yes
If you sincerely believe that rap requires no talent, get your ass up there, make up a rhyme and operate a turntable. I can guarantee you that it's not as easy as you may think it is. Due to uninformed folks such as yourself, years ago on MTV Unplugged, they had a rap edition where all the instrumental parts that had previously been sampled from records were played live. Unfortunately, that still did little to silence the haters that think rap / hip hop doesn't require talent or that it isn't music.dbtfan4life wrote:play the solo for Workin For MCA or burn
Wait what?dbtfan4life wrote:save em, their the only ones who would pay 11 dollars to see a Tyler Perry movie
which has what to do with Tyler Perry?dbtfan4life wrote:id rather play guitar. then just talk fast about stupid bullshit
plus there's the "then/than" thing, each means something completely different. Just sayin'Zip City wrote:which has what to do with Tyler Perry?dbtfan4life wrote:id rather play guitar. then just talk fast about stupid bullshit
If we start grammar policing I think we'd all end up in grammar jailwhatwouldcooleydo? wrote:plus there's the "then/than" thing, each means something completely different. Just sayin'Zip City wrote:which has what to do with Tyler Perry?dbtfan4life wrote:id rather play guitar. then just talk fast about stupid bullshit
speeque fore yerselphZip City wrote: If we start grammar policing I think we'd all end up in grammar jail
why sell yourself short, I bet you can play guitar and talk fast about stupid bullshit at the same timedbtfan4life wrote:id rather play guitar. then just talk fast about stupid bullshit
I don't understand what this means.dbtfan4life wrote:save em, their the only ones who would pay 11 dollars to see a Tyler Perry movie
Come on man. I get it if rap ain't your thing but this post is as bad as people who describe country music as, "a bunch of stupid rednecks whining about their wife leaving them, their truck breaking down, and their dog dying." Lazy thinking.dbtfan4life wrote:id rather play guitar. then just talk fast about stupid bullshit