tinnitus photography wrote:and the FM radio dinosaurs from the 70s would obviously disqualify The Pistols, Clash, et al. Unless your local FM station was a lot different from mine.
WXRT in Chicago played all those bands but they were the exception that proves the rule.
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tinnitus photography wrote:maybe it was just me and you...
I do question the top three being on any sort of shit list.
Agree with all those who feel the Dan is definitely first tier
The best band of the 1970's you say? The Sex Pistols. Followed by The Clash. Followed by Talking Heads, The Ramones and a host of others.
WTF? Steely Dan a second tier band?
Steely Dan is pretty much in the first tier of any list I'm making of bands from the 70s.
Clearly.
Mea culpa. Mea maxima culpa. In fact, when I logged in today, I'd planned to ask you what would be a first-tier band. I so misunderstood that it just wasn't funny except that it was.
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I don't consider either Jethro Tull or Santana to be "second tier" by any stretch. If they are then so are the Beatles, Dylan, Zep, Stones, Who, Sabbath, Skynyrd, etc.
Steve French wrote:The best band of the 1970's you say? The Sex Pistols. Followed by The Clash. Followed by Talking Heads, The Ramones and a host of others.
Pretty narrow lens there. Some 1st tier dinosaurs, The Stones & Zeppelin, might take issue with that. And, while not necessarily bands, Neil Young, David Bowie, Bruce Springsteen, Willie Nelson, & Waylon Jennings had a pretty spectacular decade. Although he has since turned into a steaming pile of donkey shit, Rod Stewart got it done in the 70's. Elton John, too.
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Steve French wrote:The best band of the 1970's you say? The Sex Pistols. Followed by The Clash. Followed by Talking Heads, The Ramones and a host of others.
Pretty narrow lens there. Some 1st tier dinosaurs, The Stones & Zeppelin, might take issue with that. And, while not necessarily bands, Neil Young, David Bowie, Bruce Springsteen, Willie Nelson, & Waylon Jennings had a pretty spectacular decade. Although he has since turned into a steaming pile of donkey shit, Rod Stewart got it done in the 70's. Elton John, too.
Can't we just compromise on Roxy Music and all get along? Even Julie Burchill and Tony Parsons thought highly of them.
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cortez the killer wrote:Pretty narrow lens there. Some 1st tier dinosaurs, The Stones & Zeppelin, might take issue with that. And, while not necessarily bands, Neil Young, David Bowie, Bruce Springsteen, Willie Nelson, & Waylon Jennings had a pretty spectacular decade. Although he has since turned into a steaming pile of donkey shit, Rod Stewart got it done in the 70's. Elton John, too.
Granted. Plus there was the whole "living on the other side of the world in a fucking hick town" aspect of it. We did not have FM radio when I was at high school. It came after, by which time my musical interests had become much more niche.
I'll shut up and let you guys talk about Kansas. And Boston. And America. and Styx. and Foreigner. and Steely dan.
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1) ELO -- They had a great run but I can't put them in the first tier. They were more gold than platinum. Total ear candy. 2) Blue Oyster Cult 3) The Outlaws -- not as popular as Skynyrd, not as respected as The Allmans and, when all was said and done, not even as popular as ZZ Top. But these guys have an impressive body of work. The surviving members are still out there on the road. 4) The Marshall Tucker Band -- see above 5) Bad Company 6) Boston -- They only released two albums in the 70's but they provide a disproportionate amount of songs that get played everyday on classic rock/oldies. Tom Scholz's descendents will be getting mailbox money forty years from now. 7) Chicago -- I think they had a hit song just about every year of that decade. Not a bad band at all. 8) Rush -- based on longevity they finally got some respect from the industry in these past five years. 9) T-Rex 10) KISS -- they were the gateway drug for boys born between 1964 and 1970.
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The Sex Pistols really only had one proper studio album. But it was a great album. The problem with them, IMO, is Sid Vicious and Malcolm McLaren. The Sex Pistols really didn't get any airplay in the US in the 70's. The Clash got some with London Calling which was released at the very end of the decade.
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Rush may have been considered a Zep rip-off in their early years mainly based on Geddy Lee's Plant-like shrieking but it wasn't long before they came into their own, especially by the time of 2112. The fact that it took the music press and the Rock n' Roll Hall of Fame so long to come around only goes to show how far they had their heads up their asses. "2nd tier"? I think not. Rush carved out their own niche and continue to to this day.
Kudzu Guillotine wrote:Rush may have been considered a Zep rip-off in their early years mainly based on Geddy Lee's Plant-like shrieking but it wasn't long before they came into their own, especially by the time of 2112. The fact that it took the music press and the Rock n' Roll Hall of Fame so long to come around only goes to show how far they had their heads up their asses. "2nd tier"? I think not. Rush carved out their own niche and continue to to this day.
I don't mean "second tier" in terms of quality as that is totally subjective anyway. Rush didn't get played a whole lot on the radio in the 70's. Permanent Waves was released in 1980 which had their first real hits. In the 70's, in terms of airplay, Rush would have been considered "second tier." 2112 is a great album but in terms of airplay it is nowhere near Dark Side of The Moon.
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Kudzu Guillotine wrote:Rush may have been considered a Zep rip-off in their early years mainly based on Geddy Lee's Plant-like shrieking but it wasn't long before they came into their own, especially by the time of 2112. The fact that it took the music press and the Rock n' Roll Hall of Fame so long to come around only goes to show how far they had their heads up their asses. "2nd tier"? I think not. Rush carved out their own niche and continue to to this day.
I don't mean "second tier" in terms of quality as that is totally subjective anyway. Rush didn't get played a whole lot on the radio in the 70's. Permanent Waves was released in 1980 which had their first real hits. In the 70's, in terms of airplay, Rush would have been considered "second tier." 2112 is a great album but in terms of airplay it is nowhere near Dark Side of The Moon.
Tinnitus defines it thusly, "the meaning of '2nd tier' was to differentiate them from the huge rock stars of that era (ie, Stones, Springsteen, Who, Zep, Floyd, etc) that were also on the radio all the time." In that sense it's true as they'd yet to reach that level of popularity in the 70's. As for the amount of airplay they received, I guess that depends upon where you lived. In my area, they got a good amount of airplay pre-Permanent Waves via tracks such as "Working Man", "Fly By Night", "Closer To the Heart", "The Trees", etc.
I lived in the NYC area and the commercial FM stations had the most conservative playlists when compared with other cities. "Closer To The Heart" got some airplay but in my high school Rush had a cult following. All that changed with "Spirit of The Radio", so much that many of the original Rush fans in my school "denounced" them (along with the post-Jon Anderson Yes) for pandering to "new wave" fans. I think they secretly liked "Spirit of The Radio" as it is a great song by any standard.
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tinnitus photography wrote:maybe it was just me and you...
I do question the top three being on any sort of shit list.
Agree with all those who feel the Dan is definitely first tier
The best band of the 1970's you say? The Sex Pistols. Followed by The Clash. Followed by Talking Heads, The Ramones and a host of others.
WTF? Steely Dan a second tier band?
Steely Dan is pretty much in the first tier of any list I'm making of bands from the 70s.
What we have here is a failure to communicate, presumably cross generational. Excuuuuuse us for not understanding that "second tier" and "dinosaur" were not meant as derogatory terms.
What used to be is gone and what ought to be ought not to be so hard
Bad Company are my favorite of the bands listed; if 2nd tier is defined as radio play, I've always heard you couldn't escape the Eagles in the 70's so they would have to be a 1st tier band.
Smitty wrote:Bad Company are my favorite of the bands listed; if 2nd tier is defined as radio play, I've always heard you couldn't escape the Eagles in the 70's so they would have to be a 1st tier band.
Eagles were huge. Bob Seger was as well. Every album from Live Bullet on had four or five songs that became AOR/Classic Rock standards. From 1975 to 1980 Bob Seger and The Silver Bullet Band were as strong as anybody in the hits/total songs per album ratio.
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RevMatt wrote:I lived in the NYC area and the commercial FM stations had the most conservative playlists when compared with other cities. "Closer To The Heart" got some airplay but in my high school Rush had a cult following. All that changed with "Spirit of The Radio", so much that many of the original Rush fans in my school "denounced" them (along with the post-Jon Anderson Yes) for pandering to "new wave" fans. I think they secretly liked "Spirit of The Radio" as it is a great song by any standard.
I'm pretty sure I've posted this elsewhere on here but this is a great read even if you don't agree with the album rankings as the author clearly knows his Rush inside and out. Yes, they adopted trendy sounds whether it be New Wave or U2 but they incorporated those styles in a truly unique way that showed artistic growth rather than rampant bandwagon-ism. I also find it amazing all these many years later that Rush is still very innovative and fresh sounding while the majority of their peers are the exact opposite. Yet another reason why they're a cut above.
Steve French wrote:[Lawks. I hadn't even heard the term "Yacht Rock" before it came up in this thread.
It's been pretty big in the U.S. for a while, which led to the online TV series. Though I haven't heard of one recently, some bars around here have hosted Yacht Rock theme nights.
