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cortez the killer wrote:Image ---> "DTV" Natural Child

nice. i hear steppenwolf.

except with 2 dudes singing.

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warren zevon > james mcmurtry

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Jim Carroll Band > Chuck Prophet
Tom Petty > Nude Beach's new album "77"

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dee dee wrote:Jim Carroll Band > Chuck Prophet
Tom Petty > Nude Beach's new album "77"


I've heard good things about that nude beach album. Thoughts?
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beantownbubba wrote:
dee dee wrote:Jim Carroll Band > Chuck Prophet
Tom Petty > Nude Beach's new album "77"


I've heard good things about that nude beach album. Thoughts?


Really derivative (their last album was the same way but of Springsteen) but pretty good songs. I'm only a few listens in so take it fwiw.

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dime in the gutter wrote:warren zevon > james mcmurtry


Zevon's "Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner" > PH's "The Assassin"

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Neil Young > Israel Nash

As everyone that's listened knows, the Neil influence pretty much dominates Rain Plans. I didn't really notice it so much on New York Town (his debut) where the predominate influence appears to be Ryan Adams. I can't speak for Barn Doors and Concrete Floors which I haven't heard yet.

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Kudzu Guillotine wrote:Neil Young > Israel Nash

As everyone that's listened knows, the Neil influence pretty much dominates Rain Plans. I didn't really notice it so much on New York Town (his debut) where the predominate influence appears to be Ryan Adams. I can't speak for Barn Doors and Concrete Floors which I haven't heard yet.


Definitely.

Barn Doors has a real familiar sound, but not as clear of a chief influence.

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Iowan wrote:
Kudzu Guillotine wrote:Neil Young > Israel Nash

As everyone that's listened knows, the Neil influence pretty much dominates Rain Plans. I didn't really notice it so much on New York Town (his debut) where the predominate influence appears to be Ryan Adams. I can't speak for Barn Doors and Concrete Floors which I haven't heard yet.


Definitely.

Barn Doors has a real familiar sound, but not as clear of a chief influence.

Not familiar with Israel Nash saying you can hear the Neil influence isn't saying much b/c you can hear the Neil influence on pretty much every band/artist I listen to. Taking it a step further, I'd argue that Ragged Glory is the most influential rock/americana/altcountry/whatever/ record of the past 25 years. It's incredible to me how many great bands have channeled the fuzzy/stomping/garage/rocking sound of that record.

So basically, it's this:
Neil Young/solo/crazy horse >> almost everyone
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Clams wrote:
Iowan wrote:
Kudzu Guillotine wrote:Neil Young > Israel Nash

As everyone that's listened knows, the Neil influence pretty much dominates Rain Plans. I didn't really notice it so much on New York Town (his debut) where the predominate influence appears to be Ryan Adams. I can't speak for Barn Doors and Concrete Floors which I haven't heard yet.


Definitely.

Barn Doors has a real familiar sound, but not as clear of a chief influence.

Not familiar with Israel Nash saying you can hear the Neil influence isn't saying much b/c you can hear the Neil influence on pretty much every band/artist I listen to. Taking it a step further, I'd argue that Ragged Glory is the most influential rock/americana/altcountry/whatever/ record of the past 25 years. It's incredible to me how many great bands have channeled the fuzzy/stomping/garage/rocking sound of that record.

So basically, it's this:
Neil Young/solo/crazy horse >> almost everyone


To be fair, I've never heard as strong of a Neil Young influence as I hear on "Rain Plans". It think if you played some of those tracks for someone who didn't know Nash, in a casual setting, the reaction from the listener would be something to the effect of "What Neil Young song is this? I've never heard this one before."

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Yeah, Rain Plans has straight up chord sequences/melodies from "Old Man", "Down By the RIver" and a few other Neil songs
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Zip City wrote:Yeah, Rain Plans has straight up chord sequences/melodies from "Old Man", "Down By the RIver" and a few other Neil songs


Hell, his voice sounds like Neil too at more than a few junctures.

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Every time I hear The Replacements, I hear how they influenced Ryan Adams
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Zip City wrote:Every time I hear The Replacements, I hear how they influenced Ryan Adams


Huh. I hear them in so many artists and bands but can't say I've noticed with Adams.
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Tequila Cowboy wrote:
Zip City wrote:Every time I hear The Replacements, I hear how they influenced Ryan Adams


Huh. I hear them in so many artists and bands but can't say I've noticed with Adams.


I definitely hear the Westerberg. I think there was at least one critic that described either Ryan and/or Whiskeytown as "Country & Westerberg". I think the Mats influence came off more strongly in their live shows. As for Ryan solo, I'd say it's pretty predominant on Rock n' Roll which has a heavy 80's vibe in general.

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The Oh Sees and:

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Tequila Cowboy wrote:
Zip City wrote:Every time I hear The Replacements, I hear how they influenced Ryan Adams


Huh. I hear them in so many artists and bands but can't say I've noticed with Adams.


I just caught "Left of the Dial"'and it screamed Adams to me
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The 'Mats are such influence on modern music that they're hard to escape. It might be my complicated relationship with Admas and his music that's kept me from hearing it. One of the first things that struck me about DBT was the Replacements influence, which isn't really obvious but clearly there.
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Zip City wrote:
Tequila Cowboy wrote:
Zip City wrote:Every time I hear The Replacements, I hear how they influenced Ryan Adams


Huh. I hear them in so many artists and bands but can't say I've noticed with Adams.


I just caught "Left of the Dial"'and it screamed Adams to me

uh, shouldn't it be the other way around?

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Tequila Cowboy wrote:The 'Mats are such influence on modern music that they're hard to escape. It might be my complicated relationship with Admas and his music that's kept me from hearing it. One of the first things that struck me about DBT was the Replacements influence, which isn't really obvious but clearly there.




ABAAC was my first DBT album, and I picked up a Replacements vibe right away on this one.

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I hear it in both but Feb 14 more. If you like Rock & Roll particularly of an indie bent, are of a certain age and you play in a band and write songs it's almost impossible to keep the 'Mats out of your music. Brent Best told me once how Slobberbone kind of tried to not exploit that influence but really couldn't help it and how Placemat Blues, complete with Jim Dickinson on piano, was their surrender.
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Tequila Cowboy wrote:I hear it in both but Feb 14 more. If you like Rock & Roll particularly of an indie bent, are of a certain age and you play in a band and write songs it's almost impossible to keep the 'Mats out of your music. Brent Best told me once how Slobberbone kind of tried to not exploit that influence but really couldn't help it and how Placemat Blues, complete with Jim Dickinson on piano, was their surrender.


I deleted my post because after re-listening to "Wednesday", I picked up on more of a Mats influence than I initially remember (agreed on "Feb 14" though). When I first heard "Wednesday", it reminded me a lot of Billy Idol and Steve Stevens, particularly. Not so sure I feel that way about it anymore. I just remember A Blessing And A Curse being a very different record for the Truckers overall. Hard to believe it's been 8 years already and how change has been so constant in the Truckers catalog. In that context, it doesn't stand out nearly as much but it'll always be considered an anomaly.

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Tequila Cowboy wrote:I hear it in both but Feb 14 more. If you like Rock & Roll particularly of an indie bent, are of a certain age and you play in a band and write songs it's almost impossible to keep the 'Mats out of your music. Brent Best told me once how Slobberbone kind of tried to not exploit that influence but really couldn't help it and how Placemat Blues, complete with Jim Dickinson on piano, was their surrender.


That's a pretty good point. Much like Neil Young.

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tinnitus photography wrote:The Oh Sees and:

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Nice! I'm really liking I'm in your mind fuzz. How is this one?

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i haven't heard it. the only time i heard the band was when they opened for White Fence.

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tinnitus photography wrote:
Zip City wrote:
I just caught "Left of the Dial"'and it screamed Adams to me

uh, shouldn't it be the other way around?


Well yeah, of course, but I know Adams' catalog and don't know the Replacements' so I heard one in the other, when the influence was obviously the reverse
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