Tequila Cowboy wrote: - I sure am guilty of the of hyperbole that I think you fell victim to here. I've been there before and as I said I want to be more careful about it in the future. I just think we all have to be careful of opinions we present as facts. lotusamerica's post last week that called both of us out on this has weighed heavily on me ever since. It's fine, just something to think about.
Oh, please don't let anything I ever say on here weigh heavily - it's usually just a passing thought on my end, often phrased however my mood is at the moment.
Well, perhaps other than this: If we don't find some time at one of the shows to have a good margarita together, I may go on to the end of my days drinking Jose Cuervo and that green mixer stuff, possibly even in frozen blender style. Now there's something you should perhaps let weigh heavily on you if you care for me at all, or even just take a simple interest in the well-being of humanity.
If you're at homecoming I promise tequila. Jonicont is always up for tequila as well.
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tinnitus photography wrote:this post belonged on pg 2 or 3, but i wanna get in on the action...
top 5 most influential US bands of all time
- Velvet Underground - Stooges - Metallica - Sonic Youth - Byrds (possibly The Dead or The Airplane, as well)
Ramones was a tough omission.
Solid list although I'd have a tough time leaving NY & Crazy Horse off, or is Neil disqualified for being a Canadian?
my arbitrary criteria was 'bands,' not solo visionary and whoever he's got playing w/ him. one could argue that Petty and Springsteen have had long-running bands behind them w/ little change, whereas Dylan and Young aren't that way at all. but i don't think there's anything particularly influential about Springsteen or Petty, at least as compared to the ones I mentioned.
Fair point. I was just really thinking how influential that fuzzy noise of Crazy Horse has been on everything from post punk to Grunge. Neil himself would be a different category of influence altogether.
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lotusamerica wrote: Well, perhaps other than this: If we don't find some time at one of the shows to have a good margarita together, I may go on to the end of my days drinking Jose Cuervo and that green mixer stuff, possibly even in frozen blender style. Now there's something you should perhaps let weigh heavily on you if you care for me at all, or even just take a simple interest in the well-being of humanity.
beantownbubba wrote:Ummmm, yeah, I would think being Canadian would disqualify someone from being American.
Smart ass. I also seem to remember you being on the side of including The Band as an American band despite having a Canadian member, or do I misremember?
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beantownbubba wrote:Ummmm, yeah, I would think being Canadian would disqualify someone from being American.
Smart ass. I also seem to remember you being on the side of including The Band as an American band despite having a Canadian member, or do I misremember?
If a band has a Canadian member, it can still be an American band. If a musician has a Canadian member, he's a Canadian musician.
The sooner we put those assholes in the grave&piss on the dirt above it, the better off we'll be
beantownbubba wrote:Ummmm, yeah, I would think being Canadian would disqualify someone from being American.
Smart ass. I also seem to remember you being on the side of including The Band as an American band despite having a Canadian member, or do I misremember?
If a band has a Canadian member, it can still be an American band. If a musician has a Canadian member, he's a Canadian musician.
In every discussion I've ever had with music nerds, including 3DD, the consensus has always been that The Band cannot be considered American. I would really prefer not to think about Canadians and their members.
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beantownbubba wrote:Ummmm, yeah, I would think being Canadian would disqualify someone from being American.
Smart ass. I also seem to remember you being on the side of including The Band as an American band despite having a Canadian member, or do I misremember?
If a band has a Canadian member, it can still be an American band. If a musician has a Canadian member, he's a Canadian musician.
I believe The Band were all Canadian except for Levon.
beantownbubba wrote:Ummmm, yeah, I would think being Canadian would disqualify someone from being American.
Smart ass. I also seem to remember you being on the side of including The Band as an American band despite having a Canadian member, or do I misremember?
If a band has a Canadian member, it can still be an American band. If a musician has a Canadian member, he's a Canadian musician.
Nicely done
And yes, for the record, the Band was 4/5 Canadian and is by vote, fiat, consensus, electoral college, royal decree and all other methodologies considered Canadian (despite my minority view on the subject).
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sactochris wrote:I disagree with revmatt, if you don't know who Raymond Carver was, you can't be considered well read.
One of my Dad's first jobs when we moved to Sacramento was tending bar at the place Carver drank at when he worked at Mercy Hospital.
That's the shit! Did your Dad know Ray?
I didn't get to Syracuse until 1989. So I never saw Raymond Carver but I sure saw Tobias Wolff.
We didn't move to Sacramento until 74, which was I believe a couple of years after Carver moved away. The bar was called The Fireside, and it stood until about ten years ago when they tore it down to build a Quizno's
I believe the bar is mentioned in one of Carver's biographies. Love the story where Carver and Bukowski did a reading together and it turned into an epic bender.
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RevMatt wrote:I believe the bar is mentioned in one of Carver's biographies. Love the story where Carver and Bukowski did a reading together and it turned into an epic bender.
RevMatt wrote:I believe the bar is mentioned in one of Carver's biographies. Love the story where Carver and Bukowski did a reading together and it turned into an epic bender.
Who could have seen that one coming?
Before Bukowski even arrived, Carver feared that he was getting more than he'd counted on... Bukowski was already drunk when Ray met him at the airport. At dinner he couldn't keep his hands off Maryann... Then Bukowski found he didn't have his poems with him, so Ray gave Bukowski a book that Myers had lent him. Ray was mortified as Buk performed as anticipated, swilling gin and abusing his audience. He felt responsible for whatever happened and "saw his credibility slipping with his superiors at the university with every insult Bukowski growled."
I have nowhere else to go. There is no demand in the priesthood for elderly drug addicts
