Music Blasphemy
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My top 3 Grunge Bands
1:Nirvana
2: Red Red Meat
3: Smashing Pumpkins
1:Nirvana
2: Red Red Meat
3: Smashing Pumpkins
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loathe loathe loathe billy corgan/pumpkins
best thing to come from them was james iha
well, D'arcy is pretty hot...
best thing to come from them was james iha
well, D'arcy is pretty hot...
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Smitty wrote:loathe loathe loathe billy corgan/pumpkins
best thing to come from them was james iha
well, D'arcy is pretty hot...
I can't stand him either, but I have to tip my hat to him the same way I tip my hat to Axl Rose. My fave Pumpkins story is how Corgan got a restraining order against my old homeboy, Jim Derogatis, to prevent him from reviewing a Smashing Pumpkins show in Chicago. Dero parked his ass in a chaise lounge outside the hall and reviewed it anyway.
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Never really thought of SP as grunge. I really really like Gish and Siamese Dream. Saw them a couple times and they were great. Next album had a couple good songs but too much crap. After that it all sucks to me.
and billy is a major douche
and billy is a major douche
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I really can't stand Paul Simon
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Smitty wrote:loathe loathe loathe billy corgan/pumpkins
best thing to come from them was james iha
well, D'arcy is pretty hot...
At the time of Gish and Siamese Dream I loved the Pumpkins and saw them a ton. Listening now though the music does not age well. What sounded fresh in the early nineties sounds calculated and whiny.
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Smitty wrote:loathe loathe loathe billy corgan/pumpkins
best thing to come from them was james iha
well, D'arcy is pretty hot...
D'arcy hot?
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She's a pretty girl.
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cortez the killer wrote:She's a pretty girl.
I know, I was just itching to utilize that image.
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cortez the killer wrote:She's a pretty girl.
which one is the girl?
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dime in the gutter wrote:cortez the killer wrote:She's a pretty girl.
which one is the girl?
Goddamn, I really hated that band!
Looks like a bunch of little whiny fucksticks to me
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roland wrote:I've had a really bad day and I hate the fucking Eagles, man.
Right on. Although they do bring on a certain zeitgeist from childhood/teen years. I hated that time.
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Gator McKlusky wrote:dime in the gutter wrote:cortez the killer wrote:She's a pretty girl.
which one is the girl?
Goddamn, I really hated that band!
I still do, though I gotta admit that Iha and Corgan were OK at the 1999 Bridge School show--then again, with a bill of Neil, The Who, Pearl Jam, Brian Wilson, Tom Waits, Sheryl Crow, Lucinda Williams, and Green Day, it didn't really matter if they were any good!
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fuck that. i will flat out get my swerve on to gish or whatever the 2nd lp was called. love those records.
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dime in the gutter wrote:fuck that. i will flat out get my swerve on to gish or whatever the 2nd lp was called. love those records.
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dime in the gutter wrote:fuck that. i will flat out get my swerve on to gish or whatever the 2nd lp was called. love those records.
It's O.K. Dime; you are allowed to be wrong every once in a while.
Looks like a bunch of little whiny fucksticks to me
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Gator McKlusky wrote:dime in the gutter wrote:fuck that. i will flat out get my swerve on to gish or whatever the 2nd lp was called. love those records.
It's O.K. Dime; you are allowed to be wrong every once in a while.
If you had seen them in small clubs you might have felt differently. Circa 1990 Chicago music scene they were the shit. I just don't think the music aged well.
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Love Gish and was really into Siamese Dream back in college. GM's judgment took a major hit now that he's "come out" as one who seeks alternative means to satisfy his protein fix.
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I can't stand his whiny voice but point well taken TC--by the early 90's I had reached that stage where "music was better in my day" --a grouchy old man before I was even 30! DBT changed all that.
Looks like a bunch of little whiny fucksticks to me
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the music has aged well. the smashing pumpkins have not.
just my opinion.
just my opinion.
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I agree with a lot that people have been saying about the Pumpkins and Corgan... but in the spirit of true music blasephemy I really like Adore a lot. I won't defend it because I know it's pretentious (not to mention clearly lacks Jimmy Chamberlin) but for whatever reason it just hits me the right way. My most listened to Pumpkins album (not that I listen to them all the time)
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As much of a Pearl Jam fan as I am (DBT has overtaken them as my favorite band, however), any discussion of grunge has to start with three names:
Mark Arm, Jeff Ament and Stone Gossard.
All of who you can find in the band Green River.
When they split, Mark Arm went to Mudhoney and Stone & Jeff went to Mother Love Bone. Then, when Andy Wood died, Pearl Jam was formed and then included Mike McCready and Eddie Vedder...
Point being - it drives me MAD when people point at Nirvana as the apex of grunge music.
Grunge owes its existence to Mudhoney and Pearl Jam (c/o Green River, Mother Love Bone, etc...)
So here's the blasphemy: Nirvana were the latecomers, and while many discussions of Grunge start with Nirvana and then goes from there, Nirvana really shouldn't even be mentioned until the 2nd or 3rd tier.
Mark Arm, Jeff Ament and Stone Gossard.
All of who you can find in the band Green River.
When they split, Mark Arm went to Mudhoney and Stone & Jeff went to Mother Love Bone. Then, when Andy Wood died, Pearl Jam was formed and then included Mike McCready and Eddie Vedder...
Point being - it drives me MAD when people point at Nirvana as the apex of grunge music.
Grunge owes its existence to Mudhoney and Pearl Jam (c/o Green River, Mother Love Bone, etc...)
So here's the blasphemy: Nirvana were the latecomers, and while many discussions of Grunge start with Nirvana and then goes from there, Nirvana really shouldn't even be mentioned until the 2nd or 3rd tier.
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TruckerClown wrote:As much of a Pearl Jam fan as I am (DBT has overtaken them as my favorite band, however), any discussion of grunge has to start with three names:
Mark Arm, Jeff Ament and Stone Gossard.
All of who you can find in the band Green River.
When they split, Mark Arm went to Mudhoney and Stone & Jeff went to Mother Love Bone. Then, when Andy Wood died, Pearl Jam was formed and then included Mike McCready and Eddie Vedder...
Point being - it drives me MAD when people point at Nirvana as the apex of grunge music.
Grunge owes its existence to Mudhoney and Pearl Jam (c/o Green River, Mother Love Bone, etc...)
So here's the blasphemy: Nirvana were the latecomers, and while many discussions of Grunge start with Nirvana and then goes from there, Nirvana really shouldn't even be mentioned until the 2nd or 3rd tier.
Nirvana were the public face, and rightly or wrongly the first to "blow up" in the music press and elsewhere. It's not any different than The Sex Pistols getting all the attention for punk rock when it was clearly The Ramones and others who pioneered the movement.
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Nirvana was just the better band. Call it what you want to .
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Nirvana were the public face, and rightly or wrongly the first to "blow up" in the music press and elsewhere. It's not any different than The Sex Pistols getting all the attention for punk rock when it was clearly The Ramones and others who pioneered the movement.[/quote]
No, I get that - it just bothers me when I hear people refer to them as the forbearers of grunge...
Maybe this belongs on a pet peave thread, instead of a music blasphemy thread...
Nirvana were the public face, and rightly or wrongly the first to "blow up" in the music press and elsewhere. It's not any different than The Sex Pistols getting all the attention for punk rock when it was clearly The Ramones and others who pioneered the movement.[/quote]
No, I get that - it just bothers me when I hear people refer to them as the forbearers of grunge...
Maybe this belongs on a pet peave thread, instead of a music blasphemy thread...
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lajakesdad wrote:Nirvana was just the better band. Call it what you want to .
That's highly subjective...
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Smitty wrote:potatoeater wrote:Smitty wrote:Nirvana is the 3rd best (possibly 4th) "grunge" band.
And the first two (possibly three) are?
1. Alice in Chains
2. Pearl Jam
ok not possibly 4th
my favorite 'grunge' bands:
Mudhoney
The Fluid
Das Damen
Screaming Trees
Lubricated Goat
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lajakesdad wrote:Nirvana was just the better band. Call it what you want to .
I don't know about that, despite the fact that I like Bleach and Nevermind a lot, I think Pearl Jam and Screaming Trees were the best bands out of that scene. That being said it was Nirvana that broke the barrier and that can't be denied.
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lajakesdad wrote:Nirvana was just the better band. Call it what you want to .
i saw nirvana open for eleventh dream day in chicago late 80's.
EDD tore the roof off the metro.
how's about them apples?
the fact that EDD never made it big.
that is not blasphemy, that is a travesty.
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joelle wrote:lajakesdad wrote:Nirvana was just the better band. Call it what you want to .
i saw nirvana open for eleventh dream day in chicago late 80's.
EDD tore the roof off the metro.
how's about them apples?
the fact that EDD never made it big.
that is not blasphemy, that is a travesty.
Eleventh Dream Day were the shit. I actually remember that show as I was supposed to be there and ended up having to work instead. That was the first time I ever heard of Nirvana actually, a friend had told me to check them out. I saw EDD plenty though and it was always fantastic. Should have been huge.
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