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As far as I know there's not a dedicated Buffett thread here so I figured this article is as good a way as any to start it off (though it barely even mentions John Prine, who was also on the cover of Steve Goodman's Somebody Else's Troubles).

Jimmy Buffett remembers time he hung with Chicago’s folk heroes

BY DAVE HOEKSTRA Staff Reporter / dhoekstra@suntimes.com

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Jimmy Buffett put the picture below — assembled from three photos taken at Steve Goodman’s Chicago apartment — on the wall of his new Margaritaville club at Navy Pier. | Rick Diamond~Getty Images

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Like fireflies in a jar, the characters on the cover of Steve Goodman’s “Somebody Else’s Troubles” record were captured in the summer of 1972.

It was always summer when Jimmy Buffett and Goodman got together.

Buffett popularized the Goodman ballads “Banana Republics” and “California Promises,” and the late Chicago singer-songwriter and Buffett co-wrote the Pensacola, Fla.-based “Frank and Lola” and the Key West ballad “Woman Going Crazy on Caroline Street” among others.

On Aug. 7, 1972, Goodman put out a casting call for a cover shoot for his second album. A group of raconteurs and songwriters were instructed to meet at Goodman’s huge apartment at 3759 N. Wayne, not far from Wrigley Field. There would be no last call.

The crew included Buffett (identified as Marvin Gardens on the album cover); Earl Pionke, the larger-than-life owner of the Earl of Old Town folk music club; Goodman’s best friend, John Prine; Fred Holstein, and his brother Ed.

The photographer was P. Michael O’Sullivan.

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Buffett's a helluva singer/songwriter, but I honestly lost interest when he bought into the whole Parrothead in Margaritaville schtick.
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Flea wrote:Buffett's a helluva singer/songwriter, but I honestly lost interest when he bought into the whole Parrothead in Margaritaville schtick.


I don't really think he "bought into" it as it happened in a very grassroots fashion. Meaning the audience members took it upon themselves to start dressing in island themed regalia, it's not something he encouraged. I also don't fault him for opening up that first Margaritaville store in Key West back in the mid-80s. According to one of his articles in the Coconut Telegraph newsletter at the time, he did it in an effort to have something to fall back on in his later years in case his music career didn't pan out. He was being ignored by MTV, a good portion of mainstream radio and wasn't sure if any more hits would follow that would be as popular as "Margaritaville". If nothing else, it showed a good business sense. That's something he's displayed all along. I read a story once that after a show while everyone was down at the local bar partying, he scurried up to his motel room to tally up the evening's earnings. Can't blame him for that either as far too many bands have gone down because they didn't have the business acumen necessary to make it in the music industry.

I'm not sure where things went awry but I still consider myself a fan (even if I haven't attended a show since 1996). I'm also not fond of the "Parrothead Nation" but there's really nothing that can be done about that. Buffett rarely writes his own material anymore and when he does it's not usually of the caliber that marks his best work (even Dylan has cited him as one of his favorite songwriters alongside Prine, Jerry Jeff Walker and Guy Clark). However, he does still have a good ear for cover material. As great a songwriter as he was in the 70s, he still covered the works of others (Willis Alan Ramsay, Jesse Winchester to name a couple) and in recent years has covered the likes of Guy Clark, Bruce Cockburn, Gillian Welch, John Hiatt, Stephen Bruton, etc.). These days, that business acumen seems to have completely taken over as he seems much more interested in the latest ventures in his Margartiaville enterprise than writing a decent tune. Then again, he's not the beach bum he was (or at least pretty accurately portrayed) back in the 70s when he was turning out his best material. Hard to convincingly sing about those same things when he's now a multi-millionaire. If any of his contemporaries such as Prine, Walker or Goodman had become immensely popular as Buffett did once the Parrothead thing took off do you think their strengths as songwriters would have also been compromised?

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Below is a preview of a project Buffett contributed to this year called Mark Twain: Words and Music. There's also a mention of his new record in the latest issue of Rolling Stone.


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I don't know the time, place or story (and I'm sure there is one) behind this now infamous photo but I can say without a doubt that it encapsulates the era of Jimmy Buffett that I know and love.

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I haven't seen this since it originally aired on Austin City Limits back in '78. Hopefully the person that uploaded this will upload the remainder of the performance to YouTube. Better yet, I'd love to see the complete performance (not just the segment that aired) get an official release on CD/DVD. Same thing for John Prine, who also appeared on this episode.



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Playing tonight in Jax!! But we won't be there :(
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Swamp wrote:Playing tonight in Jax!! But we won't be there :(


I haven't seen him in concert since around '96. The hassle and cost of tickets just became too much. I do hope to see him at least one more time before he hangs it up though. At this point I'd much prefer to see a solo show, maybe that's something he'll ease into once he begins to wind down the bigger shows.

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Never had heard the Elvis Presley story even though I watched that episode of Crossroads. Probably wasn't paying much attention to it since I'm not a fan of the Zac Brown Band.

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ON THIS DATE (35 YEARS AGO)
February 14, 1977 - Jimmy Buffett: "Margaritaville" b/w “Miss You So Badly” (ABC 12254) 45 single is released.

"Margaritaville" is a 1977 song by American popular music singer-songwriter Jimmy Buffett from the album Changes in Latitudes, Changes in Attitudes. This song was written about a drink in Austin, Texas, and the first huge surge of tourists who descended on Key West almost two decades ago. He wrote it in Key West while spending time in Florida. The song was a chart hit in the United States when it was released and contemporary popular culture references and remakes attest to its continuing popularity. It reached #8 on Billboard Hot 100 chart, topped the Easy Listening (Adult Contemporary) chart at #1, and peaked at #13 on the Hot Country Songs chart. It remains Buffett's highest charting solo single.

Named for a cocktail, the margarita, and with lyrics reflecting a laid-back lifestyle in a tropical climate, "Margaritaville" has come to define Buffett's music and career. The relative importance of the song to Buffett's career is referred to obliquely in a parenthetical plural in the title of a Buffett greatest hits compilation album, Songs You Know By Heart: Jimmy Buffett's Greatest Hit(s).

The song is a narrative overview of the singer's life for the previous season. He sings about laid-back living in a drunken haze in a beach community. "Margaritaville" is the mental state in which he exists during this period, induced by the perpetual imbibing of margaritas. This is best illustrated in the last verse, when the singer goes for a walk, cuts his heel and returns home to ease his pain with the eponymous alcoholic beverage. The singer is drowning his sorrows over a failed romance, and his friends are telling him that his former girlfriend is at fault. But in the respective last lines of the three successive choruses, over the course of the song we see the singer gradually confronting the fact that this emotional catastrophe was "his own damned fault."

Buffett revealed during the recording of an episode of CMT's Crossroads with the Zac Brown Band that "Margaritaville" was actually supposed to be recorded by Elvis Presley, but Elvis died the year that the song was going to be recorded. Buffett got to record it instead.

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Buttholeville or Margaritaville? Where would you like to live?
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Before he was mayor of Margaritaville...

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Jimmy Buffett in 1975, just before the album “Changes in Latitudes” became a smash and changed his career — and his music.

Great article from The Boston Globe about the early era of Buffett's career. It can be very difficult to explain to people why I'm a fan when all they know is the image he's cultivated in more recent years which has little to nothing to do with who he was during the early stages of his career. By the same token, I also have a hard time explaining my fandom to his fans that came onboard during his latter day period and didn't experience what it was like to be a Buffett fan pre-"Margaritaville" before all the Parrothead business started. To many of them, I'm considered some sort of heretic who "doesn't get it" because I prefer Buffett when the music was his priority, not his chain of casinos and Margaritaville stores. The time period before the cheap Hawaiian shirts, inflatable sharks, grass skirts, coconut bras and doing the "Fins" sign in unison. I'm sure that portion of his fanbase are fine, upstanding people but they also represent a part of Buffett's image that turns so many people off to him. To me, I don't think many of them "get it". When I first got into Buffett's music it was done within the context of his contemporaries Jerry Jeff Walker, Willis Alan Ramsay, John Prine, Steve Goodman, Jesse Winchester and Michael Murphy; singer-songwriters set against the backdrop of the early days of the Outlaw Country movement.

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Never became a fan of Buffett the whole Parrothead phenomena probably has alot to do with it. Always seemed like a bunch of aging frat boys trying to relive spring break circa 1978. I never understood why he became a cult artist. I mean, despite the Dead Heads I did "get" The Grateful Dead's cult appeal. I don't begrudge Buffett his success. God knows that so many of the people he came up with duriing that era struggle to make a living. But I guess I have never given his music a fair hearing.
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Is it OK if I think this guy is a tool and his fans give music a bad name?
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Rocky wrote:Is it OK if I think this guy is a tool and his fans give music a bad name?


I'm one of his fans and I don't think I give music a bad name. Nor do I think that Jimmy Buffett is a "tool". Of course you also have a right to your own opinion. Perhaps his image (as well as that of the Parrothead fanbase) is too ingrained in some people's consciousness to be able to listen to his music objectively. My fandom started back in the 70's when one of my older brothers turned me onto albums like A White Sportcoat and A Pink Crustacean and Living and Dying In ¾ Time. Back in those days there were no "Parrotheads" or people attending his concerts attired in leis, Hawaiian shirts and coconut bras tossing inflatable sharks and beach balls into the air. When I first became a fan, in addition to his original material, Buffett was writing with the likes of Steve Goodman ("Door Number Three") and Jerry Jeff Walker ("Railroad Lady") and occasionally covering other artists such as Jesse Winchester. That was the musical climate into which I was first introduced to Buffett and therefore it's what I will always most strongly relate to as a fan of his. That same brother also introduced me to John Prine as well as albums by the other artists I mentioned (Jerry Jeff, Goodman, Jesse Winchester, David Allan Coe, etc.) so that was the context in which I first heard Buffett. That was about as far removed from the image he has today as one could possibly have perceived at the time.

All that said, I also don't begrudge him his empire, all of which happened rather organically. He opened the first Margaritaville store in Key West as a means of having something to fall back on financially if and when the hits ever stopped coming. That's just good business sense. He's also not the first to market his own products to his fanbase (DBTs flask, anyone?). Unfortunately, somewhere along the way it seems his priorities shifted from crafting such albums as A1A to opening Margaritaville casinos. Then again, he's always said he is just as much a businessman as he is an entertainer. I'm still a fan and will most likely remain so until I cease to exist. Perhaps it's because I became a fan before all the Parrothead phenomenon kicked in that I'm able to separate that aspect of him from the image his detractors have of him today.

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He was a good songwriter and singer, and is an even better businessman.
I still have some of his early stuff on the ipod, but you could never get me to
one of his shows.

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LBRod wrote:He was a good songwriter and singer, and is an even better businessman.
I still have some of his early stuff on the ipod, but you could never get me to
one of his shows.


The last time I saw him in concert was in 1997 on what was billed as the Havaña Daydreamin' tour but I don't rule out seeing him in concert again. I first attended one of his concerts in 1979 and caught him on pretty much every tour after that until '97. I wasn't put off by his fans as much as I was the price of tickets and how difficult it can be to score them.

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Kudzu Guillotine wrote:
Rocky wrote:Is it OK if I think this guy is a tool and his fans give music a bad name?


I'm one of his fans and I don't think I give music a bad name. Nor do I think that Jimmy Buffett is a "tool". Of course you also have a right to your own opinion. Perhaps his image (as well as that of the Parrothead fanbase) is too ingrained in some people's consciousness to be able to listen to his music objectively. My fandom started back in the 70's when one of my older brothers turned me onto albums like A White Sportcoat and A Pink Crustacean and Living and Dying In ¾ Time. Back in those days there were no "Parrotheads" or people attending his concerts attired in leis, Hawaiian shirts and coconut bras tossing inflatable sharks and beach balls into the air. When I first became a fan, in addition to his original material, Buffett was writing with the likes of Steve Goodman ("Door Number Three") and Jerry Jeff Walker ("Railroad Lady") and occasionally covering other artists such as Jesse Winchester. That was the musical climate into which I was first introduced to Buffett and therefore it's what I will always most strongly relate to as a fan of his. That same brother also introduced me to John Prine as well as albums by the other artists I mentioned (Jerry Jeff, Goodman, Jesse Winchester, David Allan Coe, etc.) so that was the context in which I first heard Buffett. That was about as far removed from the image he has today as one could possibly have perceived at the time.

All that said, I also don't begrudge him his empire, all of which happened rather organically. He opened the first Margaritaville store in Key West as a means of having something to fall back on financially if and when the hits ever stopped coming. That's just good business sense. He's also not the first to market his own products to his fanbase (DBTs flask, anyone?). Unfortunately, somewhere along the way it seems his priorities shifted from crafting such albums as A1A to opening Margaritaville casinos. Then again, he's always said he is just as much a businessman as he is an entertainer. I'm still a fan and will most likely remain so until I cease to exist. Perhaps it's because I became a fan before all the Parrothead phenomenon kicked in that I'm able to separate that aspect of him from the image his detractors have of him today.

I grew up on Jimmy Buffett, my dad and his college roommate, who ended up marrying my moms sister, first heard him in the late 70's when they were in college, long before the whole Parrothead thing. I remember my parents going to see him every summer, in fact I'm wearing a 1999 tour shirt my parents me at a show.
I really love his 70's and 80's stuff, even the 90's stuff til about Beachhouse on the Moon, it just reminds me of growing up. I hope he drops the whole pop country thing and get back to what he does.
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I didn't hear any hints of "pop country" on his last one, Buffet Hotel. I liked quite a bit of that record, including his version of Will Kimbrough's "Wings". I'd love to hear him get back to the vintage sound of albums like A1A but I just don't think that's possible at this point.

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Noticed RMD's post referring to "Buffet" as terribly boring music went missing. It's cool, I understand that not everyone else is a fan. I'm also a huge fan of Rush so I'm used to catching shit for my musical tastes. I've also caught shit for liking R.E.M. and even Drive-By Truckers. Someone once told me the only thing "Decoration Day" was good for was a coaster.

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Kudzu Guillotine wrote:Noticed RMD's post referring to "Buffet" as terribly boring music went missing. It's cool, I understand that not everyone else is a fan. I'm also a huge fan of Rush so I'm used to catching shit for my musical tastes. I've also caught shit for liking R.E.M. and even Drive-By Truckers. Someone once told me the only thing "Decoration Day" was good for was a coaster.

I'd bet he's only heard Margaritaville, Cheeseburger in Paradise, and maybe 5 O'Clock somewhere
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This is really cool, I've never heard it before
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LuthierJustin wrote:
Kudzu Guillotine wrote:Noticed RMD's post referring to "Buffet" as terribly boring music went missing. It's cool, I understand that not everyone else is a fan. I'm also a huge fan of Rush so I'm used to catching shit for my musical tastes. I've also caught shit for liking R.E.M. and even Drive-By Truckers. Someone once told me the only thing "Decoration Day" was good for was a coaster.

I'd bet he's only heard Margaritaville, Cheeseburger in Paradise, and maybe 5 O'Clock somewhere


There's no telling but there's the point I've tried to make about people that only know of one image of Buffett and they find that impossible to look beyond. Not sure if that's the case in this instance or not.

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As usual, good thread KG. A1A, Havanna Day Dreamming, Living and dying, White Sport Coat were classics I enjoyed in high school in the 70's. Changes In latitudes was when it changed for me, which was good , but my taste was changing and that was that. I've always had a lot of respect for his music and still listen to these now and then. I do lose interest in many bands after a while. DBT is one of the few bands that keeps me listening.
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I'll still buy his music. I just can't afford to see him live anymore (or the patience)
Last time we saw him was either late 90's early 00's, down in Ft. Lauderdale. The whole
atmosphere was a spectacle I won't forget.
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We've discussed artist loyalty in other threads but I still don't really have a grasp on what keeps me hanging on after all these years. That not only goes for Buffett but also for Rush, R.E.M., the DBTs, Robert Plant, Wilco and others who's new records I still purchase. I really have no interest in Buffett's new Fin City CD/DVD but I am interested in purchasing his next new studio record as well as the Buried Treasure collection, if and when he ever releases it. I guess my continued fandom has something to do with becoming a fan so early on and how big of a role his music has played in my life. I've spent countless hours with my family deep sea fishing off the coast of NC and the soundtrack is a constant stream of Buffett, reggae and some of our other favorite artists such as Guy Clark and John Prine. It's something I'll never shake, nor do I have the desire to. How people see Buffett as a "tool" or someone they so strongly despise is something I've never been able to wrap my head around. I can understand us all not liking the same music, that's only natural but these folks that have all this hatred and vitriol for him, that I don't really understand.

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A good reason To get a Spotify account. I could then listen to disc that I wouldn't normally buy, possibly renewing my interest in them. I believe you can build you on playlist...
I only saw Buffet once, I believe it was in 79' at Carowinds. (before parrotheads?) Excellent concert. I took in a small tape recorder and taped it, wish I still had the tape.....had a great version of 'gods on drunk' , which I believe he wasn't supposed to play.
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I don't recall the details myself but yes, apparently at one time the estate of Lord Buckley was suing Buffett for "God's Own Drunk". During that time he wasn't to discuss the case and wasn't allowed to perform it. I'm not sure what became of it but I'm guessing some out of court settlement was reached as he still performs the song on occasion.

I saw him and the Coral Reefer Band at Carowinds on the Somewhere Over China tour in '82 (still before the whole Parrothead thing). A severe thunderstorm caused him to have to delay the concert for a few hours. They killed the power at the venue until after the storm passed but then he came on continued the concert.

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Jackson Browne just announced a couple of dates where he's going to be sharing a bill with Buffett in Texas in May. It's unclear at this moment if it's going to be a co-headlining thing or if he's going to be relegated to playing an opening set length show (I can't really imagine that happening). What is clear is that Buffett is getting top billing, set lengths aside. Parrotheads, normally accustomed to Buffett playing shows without an opening act, aren't taking this news too well. Surprisingly, very few of them seem to be aware of who Jackson Browne even is. Those that are familiar with him don't seem to be aware that he's released any albums since Running On Empty came out in 1979. Other reactions have included Parrotheads suggesting that Jackson Browne only be allowed to play 4-5 songs and others wishing it was Zac Brown and not Jackson Browne. I guess it goes without saying but no wonder Parrotheads are the subject of so much mockery and outright disdain. As big of a Jimmy Buffett fan as I am, it seems like he should be opening for Jackson Browne, not the other way around. Then again, there was a show here not long where Steve Winwood opened for Tom Petty. Maybe that was another co-headline thing but it just seemed wrong on many levels.

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Is it possible to convey to the average Buffett fan why you're unable to relate to most of them on a musical level without them feeling insulted? Here's a person who's covered and/or co- written songs with Jerry Jeff Walker, Willis Alan Ramsay, Jesse Winchester, Steve Goodman, Will Kimbrough, Tommy Womack, Bruce Cockburn, Guy Clark, Gillian Welch, John Hiatt, etc. but who's fanbase largely champions the likes of Kenny Chesney, Zac Brown, Toby Keith and a host of imitators playing what they refer to as "Trop Rock", a style of music that goes to 11 on a a scale of zero to cheese (at least in my opinion). Buffett has even been praised by the likes of Bob Dylan as one of the best songwriters of his generation yet the overall taste of the majority of his fanbase is shit. There's just no polite way to put it. This was driven home recently when some of them were asked to name their favorite concerts of all time and the list was topped off with the likes of REO Speedwagon, Styx, Billy Joel and the Eagles. I grew up on a lot of that music and make no bones about the fact that I have owned albums by Foreigner, Boston, Kansas, etc. However, during those same years I would have never placed any of those bands on the same level as Prine, Dylan, Zeppelin, Willie Nelson, Leon Russell or whatever else I was listening to at the time. Is it just that I have gone to greater lengths to develop a deeper appreciation of music in general? I'm not sure how to articulate that in a way that won't insult others because it does sound condescending. I'm just not sure how else to put it or if there even is a polite way to say it.

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