Artist of the Week 04/18/11 - Neil Young

[whatwouldcooleydo?]

[cortez the killer]

[Zip City]

Nothing controversial about that list

Nope, nothing at all

[3milelake]

https://www.ajournalofmusicalthings.com ... t-weekend/

[Clams]

https://www.ajournalofmusicalthings.com ... t-weekend/

Damn

[cortez the killer]

[Clams]

Happy to see that Uncle Neil has announced his return to Spotify
https://neilyoungarchives.com/news/1/ar ... %20SPOTIFY

[brettac1]

I love that he took shots at their lack of a high res service, too. It's ridiculous. I only use it for podcasts at this point.

[tinnitus photography]

my copy of Dume came in yesterday's mail.

[Clams]

I love that he took shots at their lack of a high res service, too. It's ridiculous. I only use it for podcasts at this point.

True enough but with a new record and tour coming, seems to me he's back with his tail between his legs.

[beantownbubba]

I love that he took shots at their lack of a high res service, too. It's ridiculous. I only use it for podcasts at this point.

True enough but with a new record and tour coming, seems to me he's back with his tail between his legs.

I don't know the answer but i think we should check ticket sales for the tour before we decide Neil's terms of surrender.

[Clams]

I love that he took shots at their lack of a high res service, too. It's ridiculous. I only use it for podcasts at this point.

True enough but with a new record and tour coming, seems to me he's back with his tail between his legs.

I don't know the answer but i think we should check ticket sales for the tour before we decide Neil's terms of surrender.

His statement said that all the other streaming services "have started serving the same disinformation podcast I had opposed at Spotify" and "I cannot leave all those services like I did Spotify, because my music would have no streaming outlet to music lovers at all, I have returned."

So Spotify changed nothing and now everyone else is doing it too. And he's back. If ya can't beat em, join em! I'd say that's a complete surrender (or a surrender under protest if we give Uncle Neil the benefit of Cooley's doubt). Personally I don't give much of a damn, I'm just happy I can listen to Ragged Glory again without switching over to the Amazon music app.

As for his ticket sales I have no idea. But I've read that his removal from Spotify cost him $16k a month* in streaming revenue.

*It's amazing how much legacy acts like Neil can still earn from streaming while newer bands can't even scrape by.

[beantownbubba]

True enough but with a new record and tour coming, seems to me he's back with his tail between his legs.

I don't know the answer but i think we should check ticket sales for the tour before we decide Neil's terms of surrender.

His statement said that because all the other streaming services "have started serving the same disinformation podcast I had opposed at Spotify" and "I cannot leave all those services like I did Spotify, because my music would have no streaming outlet to music lovers at all, I have returned."

So Spotify changed nothing and now everyone else is doing it too so he's back. If ya can't beat em, join em! I'd say that's a complete surrender (or a surrender under protest if we give Uncle Neil the benefit of Cooley's doubt). Personally I don't give much of a damn, I'm just happy I can listen to Harvest again without switching over to the Amazon music app.

As for his ticket sales I have no idea. But I've read that his removal from Spotify cost him $16k a month* in streaming revenue.

*It's amazing how much legacy acts like Neil can still earn from the streamers while newer bands can't even scrape by.

I misunderstood what actually happened. You are correct. My apologies.

Yes, it is incredible and distressing how much streaming revenues go to so few musicians, many of whom spend more on accountants than other musicians earn in a year.

[tinnitus photography]

True enough but with a new record and tour coming, seems to me he's back with his tail between his legs.

I don't know the answer but i think we should check ticket sales for the tour before we decide Neil's terms of surrender.

His statement said that all the other streaming services "have started serving the same disinformation podcast I had opposed at Spotify" and "I cannot leave all those services like I did Spotify, because my music would have no streaming outlet to music lovers at all, I have returned."

So Spotify changed nothing and now everyone else is doing it too. And he's back. If ya can't beat em, join em! I'd say that's a complete surrender (or a surrender under protest if we give Uncle Neil the benefit of Cooley's doubt).

that's not true. the reason Neil relented is that Rogan is no longer exclusive to Spotify, so Neil either had to pull back from streaming completely since Rogan is on the other major platforms now, or just allow one more streaming option, which is what he did.

[Clams]

I don't know the answer but i think we should check ticket sales for the tour before we decide Neil's terms of surrender.

His statement said that all the other streaming services "have started serving the same disinformation podcast I had opposed at Spotify" and "I cannot leave all those services like I did Spotify, because my music would have no streaming outlet to music lovers at all, I have returned."

So Spotify changed nothing and now everyone else is doing it too. And he's back. If ya can't beat em, join em! I'd say that's a complete surrender (or a surrender under protest if we give Uncle Neil the benefit of Cooley's doubt).

that's not true. the reason Neil relented is that Rogan is no longer exclusive to Spotify, so Neil either had to pull back from streaming completely since Rogan is on the other major platforms now, or just allow one more streaming option, which is what he did.

Exactly. If he was truly interested in making a statement against the streaming services who give Rogan and his ilk the platforms on which they reach the public, then he would pull his music from all of them. Instead he retreated and now his music can be heard on all the apps. Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled with the decision. But my cynical side must note for the record that he clearly caved to Spotify, the world's most popular streamer, on the eve of a huge concert tour which enables him to reach millions more of his fans which will help him to sell more tickets. And don't forget the $16k per month he's been losing in streaming revenue. Even to NY that ain't chump change. As with most things in this world, you will find the truth by following the money. Now excuse me while I go listen to Harvest on repeat.

[tinnitus photography]

well to be fair to Neil, it's one thing to do a specific boycott and quite another to do a blanket one.

i don't really care either way since i use Plexamp to stream my digital library where i can get a signal.

[jr29]

I love Neil and I'm glad I have easy access to all of his music again. However, I believe Neil to be an ass.
This is the same guy who wasn't singing for Pepsi or Coke. Written when he was a 40 year old who had been a millionaire for half his life.
Same guy who bitched and moaned about the speakers that we use to listen to our music and he couldn't have sounded more pompous and condescending when he did it.

[cortez the killer]

I love Neil and I'm glad I have easy access to all of his music again. However, I believe Neil to be an ass.
This is the same guy who wasn't singing for Pepsi or Coke. Written when he was a 40 year old who had been a millionaire for half his life.
Same guy who bitched and moaned about the speakers that we use to listen to our music and he couldn't have sounded more pompous and condescending when he did it.

[beantownbubba]

Agree or disagree with the rankings and/or the commentary, this is still an absolutely jaw dropping tour de force.

https://uproxx.com/indie/neil-young-best-songs-ranked/

[Clams]

Agree or disagree with the rankings and/or the commentary, this is still an absolutely jaw dropping tour de force.

https://uproxx.com/indie/neil-young-best-songs-ranked/

Wow. Can't wait to dive into that!

PS- honey slides! Never heard that story before!