What we like, Why we like and Why some things we don't

John A Arkansawyer · Post by **John A Arkansawyer** » Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:07 am

RolanK wrote:
Mr. Boh wrote:its fun to participate on a message board again

i do not like nerds

i like finding out about music

The duality of the 3DD thing.

I like Blondie:

Kudzu Guillotine · Post by **Kudzu Guillotine** » Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:37 pm

Not sure if this belongs here but it seemed like as good a place as any.

INFOGRAPHIC: THIS U.S. MAP REVEALS THE TOP-SELLING MUSICIAN FROM EACH STATE

Markalanbishop · Post by **Markalanbishop** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:47 am

Very interesting article. Make sure you listen to the "speech to song illusion" demonstration all the way through--it's amazing. I also like how she uses "We Built This City" by Starship as the archetypical example of a horrible song getting stuck in your head. And bonus points I'm sure from Mr. Arkansawyer because the author is a Razorback! The article also helps explain why listening to Zip City 4,329 times actually increases your enjoyment of the song. Cool stuff. Definitely looking for her book on the subject.

http://aeon.co/magazine/altered-states/ ... -in-music/

Kudzu Guillotine · Post by **Kudzu Guillotine** » Thu Mar 27, 2014 12:34 pm

I thought I'd heard it all when an Army Sergeant got killed over playing "Margaritaville" on a jukebox in 2009. At least no one died in this incident.

Woman punches DJ, destroys equipment over song selections

Post by **Tequila Cowboy** » Thu Mar 27, 2014 12:44 pm

Kudzu Guillotine wrote:I thought I'd heard it all when an Army Sergeant got killed over playing "Margaritaville" on a jukebox in 2009. At least no one died in this incident.

Woman punches DJ, destroys equipment over song selections

Maybe Matt Patton should invest in some riot gear.

beantownbubba · Post by **beantownbubba** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:04 pm

So a new album by DBT comes out and I listen as close as I possibly can, play songs over and over in part to get the lyrics, trade possible lyric "interpretations" w/ other fans here, etc etc. At some point I reach a conclusion, which in the case of EO is that I love it. Then I throw on a new record by Lee Bains III and I love it immediately, before the first song is over. I still haven't deciphered a word besides the occasional phrase from a chorus here and there. How does that work?

Zip City · Post by **Zip City** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:33 pm

beantownbubba wrote:So a new album by DBT comes out and I listen as close as I possibly can, play songs over and over in part to get the lyrics, trade possible lyric "interpretations" w/ other fans here, etc etc. At some point I reach a conclusion, which in the case of EO is that I love it. Then I throw on a new record by Lee Bains III and I love it immediately, before the first song is over. I still haven't deciphered a word besides the occasional phrase from a chorus here and there. How does that work?

It's the same visceral reaction thing I was talking about with Primer Coat. Some songs (musically) grab you by the nuts and don't let go, then you figure out the lyrics later. That's how I got so hooked on that Moondoggies record. I've listened to that record on repeat for weeks, and I still don't know half the lyrics. It's the music that moves me

RolanK · Post by **RolanK** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:37 pm

beantownbubba wrote:So a new album by DBT comes out and I listen as close as I possibly can, play songs over and over in part to get the lyrics, trade possible lyric "interpretations" w/ other fans here, etc etc. At some point I reach a conclusion, which in the case of EO is that I love it. Then I throw on a new record by Lee Bains III and I love it immediately, before the first song is over. I still haven't deciphered a word besides the occasional phrase from a chorus here and there. How does that work?

LBIII is more about the pure primal energy of rock-music, I guess. I had the same experience with his debut album as well. Just loved the album and played it to death. But it took a long time before I started taking notice of the lyrics. Actually wasn't until I got my hands on the purple vinyl with the lyrics sheet inlay before I really sat down and contemplated over them. And I found he write some pretty interesting lyrics. I get the impression he puts a lot effort into the lyrics side as well. So, I expect the same thing from the new album as well.

Post by **Tequila Cowboy** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:39 pm

beantownbubba wrote:So a new album by DBT comes out and I listen as close as I possibly can, play songs over and over in part to get the lyrics, trade possible lyric "interpretations" w/ other fans here, etc etc. At some point I reach a conclusion, which in the case of EO is that I love it. Then I throw on a new record by Lee Bains III and I love it immediately, before the first song is over. I still haven't deciphered a word besides the occasional phrase from a chorus here and there. How does that work?

I think I understand this phenomenon pretty well and I liken it to dating. You've been going steady with DBT for a long time now, you know you like them but that initial fire that you had at first still burns but it's not singing your whiskers anymore instead it's always there and short of tidal wave washing over it that flame isn't going out so you look closer than you ever have and keep falling in love by finding details. Things they have that you haven't noticed, that Cooley can really turn a phrase and as he gets older those phrases may hit closer to home. Damn that Patterson keeps getting better and look the new guy on bass kicks some ass, that's new and Jay, well what WTF dude who knew you could do THAT?? Every new thing makes you dig the band more. Now with Lee Bains III & the Glory Fires this record is pretty much your second date. Damn they're hot! Lyrics? who gives a fuck about lyrics the guitar playing is incendiary, incendiary. Holy crap, this is kinda punk I was young once, hell I remember that now. OMG I'm three songs in and I don't know what they're saying but I'm smiling. Next record? Who gives a shit we're only on number two motherfuckers! Now you remember that sometimes you LIKE getting your whiskers singed!

Kudzu Guillotine · Post by **Kudzu Guillotine** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:01 pm

I haven't heard the record yet but the only danger with liking an album so much right away is that sometimes those sort of records don't have the staying power of albums that have to grow on you. I'm interested in finding out for myself as I know there are exceptions to the rule.

Post by **Tequila Cowboy** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:03 pm

Kudzu Guillotine wrote:I haven't heard the record yet but the only danger with liking an album so much right away is that sometimes those sort of records don't have the staying power of albums that have to grow on you. I'm interested in finding out for myself as I know there are exceptions to the rule.

No question that can happen. Usually though if I love a band live and I love the album right away it usually ends up being a favorite.

beantownbubba · Post by **beantownbubba** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:33 pm

Tequila Cowboy wrote:
beantownbubba wrote:So a new album by DBT comes out and I listen as close as I possibly can, play songs over and over in part to get the lyrics, trade possible lyric "interpretations" w/ other fans here, etc etc. At some point I reach a conclusion, which in the case of EO is that I love it. Then I throw on a new record by Lee Bains III and I love it immediately, before the first song is over. I still haven't deciphered a word besides the occasional phrase from a chorus here and there. How does that work?

I think I understand this phenomenon pretty well and I liken it to dating. You've been going steady with DBT for a long time now, you know you like them but that initial fire that you had at first still burns but it's not singing your whiskers anymore instead it's always there and short of tidal wave washing over it that flame isn't going out so you look closer than you ever have and keep falling in love by finding details. Things they have that you haven't noticed, that Cooley can really turn a phrase and as he gets older those phrases may hit closer to home. Damn that Patterson keeps getting better and look the new guy on bass kicks some ass, that's new and Jay, well what WTF dude who knew you could do THAT?? Every new thing makes you dig the band more. Now with Lee Bains III & the Glory Fires this record is pretty much your second date. Damn they're hot! Lyrics? who gives a fuck about lyrics the guitar playing is incendiary, incendiary. Holy crap, this is kinda punk I was young once, hell I remember that now. OMG I'm three songs in and I don't know what they're saying but I'm smiling. Next record? Who gives a shit we're only on number two motherfuckers! Now you remember that sometimes you LIKE getting your whiskers singed!

Nicely said.

So does that mean that Springsteen was my first wife?

And, yikes!, does it mean that DBT is my trophy tail wife?

Shakespeare · Post by **Shakespeare** » Tue May 06, 2014 4:39 pm

made this for a top albums voting thread on another board. spent a ton of time on it so i figured id get it a bit more life out of it and post it here. managed to do a writeup for all 200 albums over there but ive stretched out this page enough so ill just post the list here

beantownbubba · Post by **beantownbubba** » Tue May 06, 2014 5:32 pm

Wow, that there is one hell of a lot of work and an impressive achievement.

The depressing part is how many of those albums I'm not familiar with. I honestly would have put the over/under on the number of albums I'd be unfamiliar w/ in a top 200 list from anyone on this board at 5 to 7, maybe 10 to account for tinnitus

and it turns out to be multiples of that (I didn't actually count but it's clearly much more than 10). :shock:

There's no point in arguing your choice of album from a particular artist though there are a number I disagree with. Just as an example, I think Radiohead is the most egregious example of that. Nor is there any point in arguing fine distinctions of a few places in the rankings here and there. The only ranking I want to question is Every Picture Tells A Story which to me is off by somewhere around 100 places, which is a lot. Most important, I think a list like this has to be taken on its own terms, i.e. it represents those types of music that matter to you so arguing that other genres are unrepresented doesn't make sense.

OTOH i do think it's fair to argue that a top 200 list w/out anything from springsteen or the clash or jimi hendrix is flawed (it's a long list, i apologize if i missed listings for any of those).

So trying to respond on your terms:

I'm not sure how tammy wynette makes the list but, say, johnny cash or hank williams don't.

I appreciate that you made more than a nod to power pop, but I don't know how you do that w/out Matthew Sweet's Girlfriend.

I think you did well by soul, a genre notorious for not being album friendly, but having said that, not only does Aretha belong on the list on a talent basis, I think most people would consider I Never Loved A Man... to be one of the great albums of the genre and worthy of inclusion on your list.

But the biggest eye opener for me is that I take it as a given that the top 50 of a top 200 list would be absolutely positively gold plated and even if one would come up w/ 10 or even 50 different choices, one should be able to understand someone else's choices. But i find way too many at the top of the list that I'm not familiar with (my problem, not yours) and way too many that wouldn't be in my top 200, e.g. Weezer, Modest Mouse and Spoon.

Having said all that I think you did a great job, obviously constructed your list w/ love, care and thought, have excellent taste and know a ton about music. I personally could spend pretty much forever reading and discussing lists like this so thanks for posting. And yeah, it does make me want to revisit a bunch of albums i haven't heard in too long (as well as every one of your top 50 that i'm not familiar w/).

ps Personally, I didn't miss elliott smith at all

Shakespeare · Post by **Shakespeare** » Tue May 06, 2014 5:52 pm

you put as much thought into my list as i did

nice post. gonna respond to a few things that were definite thoughts during my process

beantownbubba wrote:There's no point in arguing your choice of album from a particular artist though there are a number I disagree with. Just as an example, I think Radiohead is the most egregious example of that. Nor is there any point in arguing fine distinctions of a few places in the rankings here and there. The only ranking I want to question is Every Picture Tells A Story which to me is off by somewhere around 100 places, which is a lot. Most important, I think a list like this has to be taken on its own terms, i.e. it represents those types of music that matter to you so arguing that other genres are unrepresented doesn't make sense.

radiohead was a huge example of nostalgias impact on my decisions. i tried to be fair and go with true favorites, but sometimes memories can be impossible to separate. in rainbows was everything to me when it came out. we're talking legitimately all i wanted to listen to for a very long time. i could probably count on one hand how many albums ive fallen that hard that fast for. it wasnt the first id heard of them (in fact i think id heard it all at that point) but to me it felt like the perfect sumamry of what they did well. ok computer impressed me immediately but in rainbows totally blew me away.not quite sure what it was, but i always thought it played like a greatest hits album of new material. i dont have much time for radiohead anymore, but i still play in rainbows a lot, and okc/the bends a bit less. ive long considered the bends my actual favorite, but i had a hard time not going with in rainbows on this. plus i got to see them on that tour. theyve lost me in recent years so im glad i got to check them off the last on the heels of a record i loved

not quite sure what i dig so much about early rod solo stuff, but i love it.

OTOH i do think it's fair to argue that a top 200 list w/out anything from springsteen or the clash or jimi hendrix is flawed (it's a long list, i apologize if i missed listings for any of those).

here we get into personal stuff. i dont like springsteen much at all. sorry. tried, cant do it. i can kinda dig a bit nebraska, but it would be a long, long list before id even consider putting it in there. the clash i do like, but ive always respected them more than genuinely enjoyed them. i considered the s/t (which i like more than london calling) but there were a ton of other punk albums that i like more, or were more important to me, or both. its not like i had a limit on the number of punk albums, but by the time i included the ones i genuinely loved, there was no room for the clash. probably a case of missed opportunities. i got into punk a bit late, and i think discovering the clash a few years before i did would have changed things. if i were making an objective list of the best 200 albums, id have to throw bruce and the clash in there, but wheres the fun in objectivity?

hendrix was a glaring omission. electric ladyland by all means should have been top 100. i blew that one

I'm not sure how tammy wynette makes the list but, say, johnny cash or hank williams don't.

another part of my method i didnt mention was that that initial list of 200+ albums was compiled by scanning through my cd collection, which has neither johnny or hank. it should, but it doesnt. i have some cash vinyl, but nothing thats made enough of an impression on me to truly rank. i guess overall i really only know him through scattered songs, so there wasnt an album of his i could have included even if i wanted to. hank im shamefully underaware of. its on my list to correct. lots of old country guys and gals i need to discover.

i dont quite know why i like that tammy album so much myself. i cringe at so many of the casually sexist lyrics on there, but her voice is a thing to behold. couldnt say no, but i couldnt let it place too high either

I appreciate that you made more than a nod to power pop, but I don't know how you do that w/out Matthew Sweet's Girlfriend.

i do own this album, but havent listened. it was a super cheap thrift store pickup a while ago that just never rose high enough on my interest level to give it a spin. ill get on that now though. i guess my main power pop representatives were weezer (who ill get into in a second) big star (who i would legitimately credit with saving my life in some ways) and the exploding hearts (a record i cannot recommend enough. on the surface it seems like clash aping bratty punk rock, but its some of the most joyous and fun sloppy rock and roll ive ever heard. spare 29 minutes and give it a listen) but its still a genre im exploring.

I think you did well by soul, a genre notorious for not being album friendly, but having said that, not only does Aretha belong on the list on a talent basis, I think most people would consider I Never Loved A Man... to be one of the great albums of the genre and worthy of inclusion on your list.

this i also considered, and very nearly went with that exact album. truth be told, soul is a genre in which i still have a ton of work to do, so i only included the stuff thats really impressed me most in the genre. i never loved a man is a classic though, no doubt about it

But the biggest eye opener for me is that I take it as a given that the top 50 of a top 200 list would be absolutely positively gold plated and even if one would come up w/ 10 or even 50 different choices, one should be able to understand someone else's choices. But i find way too many at the top of the list that I'm not familiar with (my problem, not yours) and way too many that wouldn't be in my top 200, e.g. Weezer, Modest Mouse and Spoon.

this is almost certainly an age thing. im 24 so all of these bands line up perfectly with my music discovery process. weezer was the first band i ever loved, and theyre one of the best bands to discover around 8th/9th grade, modest mouse soundtracked high school and college for me, and continues to hit me really hard from time to time, and spoon has been as reliable as anyone out there recently. tons of nostalgia involved in all three of those bands

ps Personally, I didn't miss elliott smith at all

i can see him being a love or hate artist. i actually cant recall ever seeing him come up on this board, but surely someone digs him. i enjoy most of his stuff ut the s/t is one of those haunting acoustic albums ill always have time for. pretty pissed i forgot it

again, nice post.

linkous · Post by **linkous** » Tue May 06, 2014 6:05 pm

That's one hell of an eclectic list Shakespeare, kudos to you. I suspect somehow that after his comments the albums that Beantown hasn't heard I will have, and vice versa

You're obviously a big Gruff Rhys fan, I counted at least three albums he's been involved with in various guises. I love SFA and wish they would release something soon.
I was going down the list, and the closer I got to the end was thinking to myself "He's not got any Afghan Whigs, I don't believe it !!", but there it was at No19. I might have picked Gentlemen just because of the impact it had on me when I first heard it all those years ago, but that's just splitting hairs. Black Love is great in it's own right.
My only gripe, if you want to call it that, is that No 171 on your list should obviously be top 10!!!

Shakespeare · Post by **Shakespeare** » Tue May 06, 2014 6:11 pm

linkous wrote:That's one hell of an eclectic list Shakespeare, kudos to you. I suspect somehow that after his comments the albums that Beantown hasn't heard I will have, and vice versa

id actually be interested in knowing some of the ones people arent aware of. i think ive got a fair amount of nuggets in my collection but nothing compared to some people (if you think my list has some obscure stuff, you should see some others on the board i made it for)

You're obviously a big Gruff Rhys fan, I counted at least three albums he's been involved with in various guises. I love SFA and wish they would release something soon.

favorite band. i even did an AOTW on them last year. picking one sfa album was the toughest one on there for me. guerilla might not be my favorite (its either that, radiator or phantom pwoer) but i had to pick it for the impact it had on me when i first heard it. id never heard a band as all over the place as they are on that album. really made an impression on me

dunno if youre into gruffs solo work but hes got an album out this week actually. his solo stuff doesnt quite stand up to sfa, so i also hope they return asap, but ill always take new songs from him.

I was going down the list, and the closer I got to the end was thinking to myself "He's not got any Afghan Whigs, Idon't believe it !!", but there it was at No19. I might have picked Gentlemen just because of the impact it had on me when I first heard it all those years ago, but that's just splitting hairs. Black Love is great in it's own right.

this was tough, for sure. could have easily gone either way. both would be near the top if id allowed multiple per artist

My only gripe, if you want to call it that, is that No 171 on your list should obviously be top 10!!!

give it time and theyll work their way up the list. its already an album that makes me wish i played it more every time i revisit. almost went with hex, for the classical, but i prefer saving grace a tad overall.

linkous · Post by **linkous** » Tue May 06, 2014 6:18 pm

Shakespeare wrote:
linkous wrote:That's one hell of an eclectic list Shakespeare, kudos to you. I suspect somehow that after his comments the albums that Beantown hasn't heard I will have, and vice versa

id actually be interested in knowing some of the ones people arent aware of. i think ive got a fair amount of nuggets in my collection but nothing compared to some people (if you think my list has some obscure stuff, you should see some others on the board i made it for)

You're obviously a big Gruff Rhys fan, I counted at least three albums he's been involved with in various guises. I love SFA and wish they would release something soon.

favorite band. i even did an AOTW on them last year. picking one sfa album was the toughest one on there for me. guerilla might not be my favorite (its either that, radiator or phantom pwoer) but i had to pick it for the impact it had on me when i first heard it. id never heard a band as all over the place as they are on that album. really made an impression on me

dunno if youre into gruffs solo work but hes got an album out this week actually. his solo stuff doesnt quite stand up to sfa, so i also hope they return asap, but ill always take new songs from him.

I was going down the list, and the closer I got to the end was thinking to myself "He's not got any Afghan Whigs, Idon't believe it !!", but there it was at No19. I might have picked Gentlemen just because of the impact it had on me when I first heard it all those years ago, but that's just splitting hairs. Black Love is great in it's own right.

this was tough, for sure. could have easily gone either way. both would be near the top if id allowed multiple per artist

My only gripe, if you want to call it that, is that No 171 on your list should obviously be top 10!!!

give it time and theyll work their way up the list. its already an album that makes me wish i played it more every time i revisit. almost went with hex, for the classical, but i prefer saving grace a tad overall.

Yeah I've got American Interior coming through the mail this week, should arrive tomorrow. Gave it a few listens on Spotify, like it a lot so far.

Shakespeare · Post by **Shakespeare** » Tue May 06, 2014 6:24 pm

lucky. ive got to choose between ~$25 for an import cd now or wait for the us release in october. i have a download already so ill probably wait, just a bit frustrating.

ive given it a few plays already and im enjoying it. bit of a country vibe at times which i dig. some of his most underrated tunes have had a country influence so its nice to hear some more. also feels more like a full band sound than his past solo work. some great drumming by newly ex-flaming lip kliph scurlock

hes also one of the nicest dudes ive ever met. hope he tours this one in the states.

beantownbubba · Post by **beantownbubba** » Tue May 06, 2014 6:26 pm

Shakespeare wrote:radiohead was a huge example of nostalgias impact on my decisions.

Can't argue w/ this. It's been discussed on the board numerous times as a huge factor overall in the "why we like what we like" phenomenon. But glad we agree on which are the actual best radiohead albums.

Shakespeare wrote:not quite sure what i dig so much about early rod solo stuff, but i love it.

I think what we have here is a failure to communicate, my fault. I revised that sentence and managed to make it less clear along the way lol. I meant Every Picture was 100 ranks too low

At first I thought you were saying you liked the previous Stewart albums more (which is legit, too, though I'd still pick Every Picture first) but they're not on the list so I think I've now straightened this out.

Shakespeare wrote:i guess my main power pop representatives were weezer (who ill get into in a second) big star (who i would legitimately credit with saving my life in some ways) and the exploding hearts (a record i cannot recommend enough. on the surface it seems like clash aping bratty punk rock, but its some of the most joyous and fun sloppy rock and roll ive ever heard. spare 29 minutes and give it a listen) but its still a genre im exploring.

To give you credit you've also got teenage fanclub on your list. I agree w/ you that exploding hearts is a great record. Probably in my top 10 power pop, especially if we're limiting it to 1 per artist. Again, I won't quibble about placement and it's a great record. Let us know what you think of Girlfriend when you get around to it.

linkous wrote:I suspect somehow that after his comments the albums that Beantown hasn't heard I will have, and vice versa

LOL, I had this exact thought when I was writing that (about you) and it makes me think that I was setting my over/under unrealistically low from the start, but I'm still surprised.

Just as an example of stuff I'm not familiar w/, there's super furry animals - i remember your AOTW, shakes, and it caused me to check them out and i liked what I heard but if you played them for me right now I wouldn't recognize it. I hate when that happens.

Smitty · Post by **Smitty** » Tue May 06, 2014 8:38 pm

I definitely could see one choosing Tammy over Cash and/or Hank.
I personally put no false idols above Hank, but if I could only listen to Cash or Tammy for the rest of my life, I'd choose the latter in a heartbeat.

Kudzu Guillotine · Post by **Kudzu Guillotine** » Tue May 06, 2014 10:43 pm

Since that "list your 10 favorite albums in 10 minutes" (and various variations thereof) meme still makes it's way around FB every so often and there's always so many albums left off that I'd like to include, I eventually said fuck the dumb shit and threw together a list of 100 favorites a while back. My note and disclaimer below.

100 Favorite Albums

I just rattled off some favorites without putting too much thought into it (well, at least until I reached the 50 mark). I tried to limit it to one album per artist for more variety (though there are a few exceptions) when I very well could have included huge chunks of individual artists' catalogs. I also tried to keep it to proper albums though there's several notable exceptions to that as well. That's just the criteria I used for myself, if you'd like to take part feel free to list compilations, EP's, live albums, etc. Even at 100 albums I still managed to leave out the Band, the Who, Jackson Browne, Nada Surf and countless others I would have included had I put my mind to it. Also, you don't have to create a Note to participate but I found it helpful because the numbered list feature makes it easier to keep track. Tag whoever you think might be interested in listing 100 of their favorite records.

Beatles Hey Jude
Whiskeytown Strangers Almanac
Flying Burrito Brothers Gilded Palace of Sin
Waylon Jennings Honky Tonk Heroes
David Lindley & El Rayo-X El Rayo-X
Jimmy Buffett A1A
Gourds Bolsa de Agua
Drive-By Truckers Gangstabilly
Alice Cooper Killer
Leon Russell and Marc Benno Asylum Choir II
Foghat Live
Led Zeppelin Led Zeppelin IV
Bob Marley and the Wailers Live!
Black Sabbath Paranoid
ZZ Top Tres Hombres
Backsliders Throwin' Rocks at the Moon
Ryan Adams Heartbreaker
Old and In the Way Old and In the Way
Van Halen Women and Children First
Emmylou Harris Elite Hotel
The Itals Early Recordings 1971-1979
New Riders of the Purple Sage The Adventures of Panama Red
Son Volt Trace
Wilco Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
James McMurtry Live in Aught-Three
Nantucket It's A Long Way To the Top
AC/DC If You Want Blood...You've Got It
Megafaun Gather, Form & Fly
Kiss Alive
David Allan Coe Rides Again
Peter Frampton Frampton Comes Alive
Rush A Farewell To Kings
R.E.M. Fables of the Reconstruction
Kasey Chambers The Captain
The Replacements Let It Be
Grand Funk Railroad Live Album
Rolling Stones Some Girls
The Earl Scruggs Revue Live! From Austin City Limits
Steve Earle El Corazon
Guadalacanal Diary Walking In the Shadow of the Big Man
Southern Culture On the Skids Dirt Track Date
Smashing Pumpkins Siamese Dream
Pearl Jam No Code
Grateful Dead Workingman's Dead
Lynyrd Skynyrd Pronounced'Lĕh-'nérd 'Skin-'nérd
Aerosmith Aerosmith
Various Artists The Harder They Come (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack)
Guy Clark Texas Cookin'
Perfect When Squirrels Play Chicken EP
Willie Nelson and Leon Russell One More For the Road
Commander Cody and His Lost Planet Airmen Country Casanova
10,000 Maniacs In My Tribe
Donna the Buffalo Donna the Buffalo (aka The Purple One)
John Prine Bruised Orange
Jerry Jeff Walker ¡Viva Terlingua!
The Jimi Hendrix Experience Axis: Bold As Love
Little Feat Waiting For Columbus
Allman Brothers Band Idlewild South
U2 War
Mike Cross The Bounty Hunter
Cheap Trick Heaven Tonight
Various Artists Loud, Fast and Out of Control: The Wild Sounds of 50's Rock (Box Set)
Uncle Tupelo Still Feel Gone
Gram Parsons Grievous Angel
Various Artists Welcome To Comboland
The Connells Fun & Games
Various Artists The "King" Kong Compilation: The Historic Reggae Recordings 1968 - 1970
Peter Tosh Equal Rights
Ryan Gustafson The Donkey LP
Various Artists The Story of Jamaican Music: Tougher Than Tough (Box Set)
Robert Johnson King of the Delta Blues Singers
Goose Creek Symphony Est. 1971
Mount Moriah Mount Moriah
Slim Harpo Tip On In
Counting Crows August and Everything After
Howlin' Wolf His Greatest Sides Volume One
Willie Nelson Live: I Gotta Get Drunk
Waylon Jennings and Willie Nelson Waylon and Willie
Waylon Jennings, Willie Nelson, Tompall Glaser and Jessi Colter Wanted: The Outlaws
Neil Young and Crazy Horse Rust Never Sleeps
Howlin' Wolf & Muddy Waters Muddy & the Wolf
Various Artists Woodstock (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack)
Bob Dylan The Bootleg Series, Vols. I, II & III: Rare and Unreleased 1961-1991 (Box Set)
Tony Joe White The Best of Tony Joe White
Various Artists The Oxford American Southern Sampler 1998
Trailer Bride Whine De Lune
Charlie Daniels Band Fire On the Mountain
Deep Purple Made In Japan
Tinariwen Aman Iman: Water Is Life
Neville Brothers Fiyo On the Bayou
Los Lobos Will the Wolf Survive?
Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble Texas Flood
Nanci Griffith Lone Star State of Mind
Old 97's Too Far To Care
Slobberbone Everything You Thought Was Right Was Wrong Today
The Yayhoos Fear Not the Obvious
Dire Straits Making Movies
Various Artists Nuggets: Choice Artyfacts From the First Psychedelic Era
Frog Holler Idiots
Lucinda Williams Car Wheels On A Gravel Road

Kudzu Guillotine · Post by **Kudzu Guillotine** » Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:02 pm

From 1959

Kudzu Guillotine · Post by **Kudzu Guillotine** » Mon Sep 01, 2014 10:31 am

Pull quote from Peter Buck from the October 1984 issue of Record magazine from an article called “The True Spirit of American Rock.” To read the entire article, click here.

teleburst · Post by **teleburst** » Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:48 am

Coming in very late to this thread, and only reading the first and last pages (I'll get to the creamy center later), I have to say that, while I have a lot of criteria that I could mention that determine whether I like something, am neutral about it, or try to avoid it at all costs, almost always it boils down to the minor chord. I'm not saying that a song has to be in a minor key, or even have a minor chord in it (I love Big Star's "I'm In Love With a Girl for instance), but the songs that I gravitate to generally have a some sort of minor "feel". The Big Star song is a good example. There's no minor chord in the song that I know of, although there are some less than major sounding chords, but there's a feeling in the vocals that gives it a bit of weariness that gives it a minor feel that goes against what you'd think would be an uplifting song. And that's another thing that I like, a song that goes against expectations in terms of feel vs. content.

I like a lot of songs that are "sunny" sounding, but I gravitate to the darker ones. And I love the songs that are pretty much major but resolve to a minor or have those one or two minor chords that add a bittersweet feel to an otherwise major key song.

Oddly enough, songs that are mostly in a minor key don't interest me nearly as much. I like some of them like (Don't Fear) The Reaper, Angie, etc. Angie's a good example. I like it, but I like Wild Horses better. It's in G, but has more than its fair share of minor chords and when it goes back from minor to major, it seems exultant somehow.

Well, that's just my personal take in as small of a nutshell as I could make it.

RolanK · Post by **RolanK** » Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:57 pm

teleburst wrote:
Oddly enough, songs that are mostly in a minor key don't interest me nearly as much. I like some of them like (Don't Fear) The Reaper, Angie, etc. Angie's a good example. I like it, but I like Wild Horses better. It's in G, but has more than its fair share of minor chords and when it goes back from minor to major, it seems exultant somehow.

Well, that's just my personal take in as small of a nutshell as I could make it.

Interesting subject, and one that I've got lost in several times when I try to apply the little knowledge I have of music theory to understand if there is some kind of a common denominator to the music I gravitate towards. Wild Horses is an interesting example and imo it also serves as an example of something I believe Stones were/are very good at. I agree that the verse is in G, from a chordal pow in the chorus they throw in an F, and skip the D, which in my head moves the song over in Am (or C), whereas the vocal melody still has the feel of the verse. I haven't really analyzed the melody note for note to say what the apparent key of the vocal melody is, but nevertheless the "trick" creates some kind of tension that works very well and makes the song more interesting in my ears. I would say it may also be what gives the song sort of a country-blues feel (The Rock'n'Roll?). Sweet Virginia would also be example where something similar happens.

Clams · Post by **Clams** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:02 pm

Pitchfork Gives Music a 6.8

CHICAGO—Music, a mode of creative expression consisting of sound and silence expressed through time, was given a 6.8 out of 10 rating in an review published Monday on Pitchfork Media, a well-known music-criticism website.

According to the review, authored by Pitchfork editor in chief Ryan Schreiber, the popular medium that predates the written word shows promise but nonetheless "leaves the listener wanting more."

http://www.theonion.com/articles/pitchf ... c-68,2278/

beantownbubba · Post by **beantownbubba** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 3:25 pm

I'd forgotten how good and how interesting those lists are, Shakespeare & KG. There's enough food for thought and listening there to keep one occupied for endless hours. Perhaps I'll make going through your lists a project, like that girl who is going through the 1000 albums everyone should hear before they die. Actually, I wonder how she's doing. Maybe she's even done by now.

Like that Onion article, Clams. I didn't think it was haha funny but it's pretty dead on satire.

Shakespeare · Post by **Shakespeare** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 4:26 pm

i find it interesting how different my own list would be if i did it now, and it hasnt even been a year since i did the one i posted :lol:

beantownbubba · Post by **beantownbubba** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:01 pm

Shakespeare wrote:i find it interesting how different my own list would be if i did it now, and it hasnt even been a year since i did the one i posted

And yet how passionately you would have (and probably did) argue for these if anyone dared suggest a single album was out of place. :lol:

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