PH in conversation with the amazing Tommy Tomlinson. (His book "The Elephant in the Room" is incredibly powerful).
(https://www.wfae.org/post/southbound-dr ... -and-sound)
(I was having some issues playing it in a browser, but I might just be incompetent. It played just fine in iTunes).
PH and Tommy Tomlinson Conversation on WFAE
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PH and Tommy Tomlinson Conversation on WFAE
I’d have a lot of nerve to go feigning shock and outrage/If I'd been my example I’d be worse