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I am still loving this album. I liked it from my first listen when it leaked during the summer. But over the months it has firmly established itself in the #3 spot right behind Decoration Day/Dirty South. I'm sure in the coming years it may slide around a bit but I'm still convinced American Band is their strongest album since Dirty South.
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Nice album that I'm ranking well below The Dirty South, Decoration Day, Southern Rock Opera and Brighter Than Creations Dark... and slightly above English Oceans. Definitely the best since BTCD.

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brett27295 wrote:I am still loving this album. I liked it from my first listen when it leaked during the summer. But over the months it has firmly established itself in the #3 spot right behind Decoration Day/Dirty South. I'm sure in the coming years it may slide around a bit but I'm still convinced American Band is their strongest album since Dirty South.
I was gonna wait a full 6 months from release before posting an updated reaction, but as you point out, many of us have been listening to the album that long anyway. I, too, am still loving American Band and think it is holding up very, very well. I enjoy listening to it regularly. I'm not ready to rank it other than to say "highly." As is often the case w/ DBT songs/albums, the evolving nature of the live versions keeps the songs fresh and adds to the pleasure of listening to the original versions, which doesn't make much logical sense but that's how it works for me.
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While I am like many others here in that I have a hard time being objective when discussing DBT music, the American Band objectivity "difficulty" shifts to its political relevance. The normal songwriting, musicianship, sequencing, production elements of rating an album are still somewhat overshadowed by the too real connections to our current political climate. To me, it is impossible to put it in the ranking (although I don't always see the need to do so anyway) right now when many of us are so flabbergasted by what we have seen in just four weeks. If we must rank, as Bubba said, it will take more time. That being said, it still kicks ass because its relevant to our time, has killer songwriting, takes you on a journey of fist pumping rock and heartwrenching emotions while combining outstanding individual music performances into a synergy-produced outcome that is a standout album that was recognized accordingly.

During the homecoming shows Patterson and Jay showed me that their present guitar contributions in the live show are giving Cooley even more room to add "icing to the cake" with his smoking licks that we depend on. Jay's work on American Band adds both melodic and punkish qualities that really have registered with me. Matt is a beast and EZB is my co-pilot!! I'm choosing to enjoy AB for the now and how it holds up historically will take care of itself. This band is and has been stellar and I hope they are able to continue to bring us musical pleasure for many years to come.
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beantownbubba wrote:
brett27295 wrote:I am still loving this album. I liked it from my first listen when it leaked during the summer. But over the months it has firmly established itself in the #3 spot right behind Decoration Day/Dirty South. I'm sure in the coming years it may slide around a bit but I'm still convinced American Band is their strongest album since Dirty South.
I was gonna wait a full 6 months from release before posting an updated reaction, but as you point out, many of us have been listening to the album that long anyway. I, too, am still loving American Band and think it is holding up very, very well. I enjoy listening to it regularly. I'm not ready to rank it other than to say "highly." As is often the case w/ DBT songs/albums, the evolving nature of the live versions keeps the songs fresh and adds to the pleasure of listening to the original versions, which doesn't make much logical sense but that's how it works for me.
I guess I've pretty much gotten out of the ranking game on DBT records because it fluctuates so much and the quality level is so consistently high. As much as a landmark achievement SRO was I don't listen to it that much because I listen to a lot of live shows with those songs in the setlists. Then there's an album like GGB that I really love as a whole, and listen to maybe more than any other record, but is sort of a "which of these is not like the others" thing as that is it kind off sits outside the canon for me. To me EO ushered in this new era of the band from a recording standpoint and American Band really improved on that excellent record. I do listen to it often and still marvel at how much they hit their mark in terms of idea to execution. So, yeah, it ranks very highly for me in terms of what I want to hear and how successful a record it is on so many levels but in terms of making a 1,2,3,4, etc. list of albums anymore I will leave that to y'all because I'm out.
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Shit, I'll play.

Decoration Day
The Dirty South
Southern Rock Opera
A Blessing and a Curse
American Band
Pizza Deliverance
English Oceans
Brighter than Creation's Dark
Gangstabilly
The Big To Do
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As of this second:
Decoration Day
Southern Rock Opera
The Dirty South
American Band
English Oceans
A Blessing and a Curse (just because WoH and Aftermath really really resonate for me right now)
Brighter Than Creations Dark
Pizza Deliverance
Gangstabilly
The Big To-Do
Go-Go Boots
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Tequila Cowboy wrote:Then there's an album like GGB that I really love as a whole, and listen to maybe more than any other record, but is sort of a "which of these is not like the others" thing as that is it kind off sits outside the canon for me.
That is an incredibly apt description of how I feel about it, too.
Tequila Cowboy wrote:To me EO ushered in this new era of the band from a recording standpoint and American Band really improved on that excellent record. I do listen to it often and still marvel at how much they hit their mark in terms of idea to execution. So, yeah, it ranks very highly for me in terms of what I want to hear and how successful a record it is on so many levels but in terms of making a 1,2,3,4, etc. list of albums anymore I will leave that to y'all because I'm out.
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Then the Shonna years: BTCD, TBTD, GGB
And now the Hood/Cooley years: EO, AB, and next?

Or are those the Jay/Matt years? (Not to slight EZB, who's been there almost all along, but there's no slice with his name on it.)
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I think the eras are too different to make any kind of apples to apples rankings anymore.
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Zip City wrote:I think the eras are too different to make any kind of apples to apples rankings anymore.
Ehh.

I just went by which I like the most. I'm not trying to take anything other than my own personal enjoyment level into account.

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Tequila Cowboy wrote:To me EO ushered in this new era of the band from a recording standpoint and American Band really improved on that excellent record.
I'm not sure that I've thought of it that way but agreed. I'm also thankful to have it so nicely documented on It's Great To Be Alive. I love breaking out Alabama Ass Whuppin' every so often to get some idea of just how much the Truckers' sound has evolved over the years. My last show was at Cat's Cradle almost a year ago. The last few times I have seen them in general, I would put on a par with my favorite shows I saw in the early to mid-00's. The shows back then were raw and rambunctious but the ones they put on now are no less visceral, even if they are a bit more refined. This long into most bands careers, the cracks start to show. Not so with the Truckers, they continue to get better. That's a pretty fucking rare feat in rock n' roll. I'm eternally grateful to have been along for a fairly sizable chunk of the ride.

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Iowan wrote:
Zip City wrote:I think the eras are too different to make any kind of apples to apples rankings anymore.
Ehh.

I just went by which I like the most. I'm not trying to take anything other than my own personal enjoyment level into account.
Interesting. So GGB is your least enjoyable? Personal tastes are just that but I never fail to wildly enjoy that record anytime I play it.
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Tequila Cowboy wrote:
Iowan wrote:
Zip City wrote:I think the eras are too different to make any kind of apples to apples rankings anymore.
Ehh.

I just went by which I like the most. I'm not trying to take anything other than my own personal enjoyment level into account.
Interesting. So GGB is your least enjoyable? Personal tastes are just that but I never fail to wildly enjoy that record anytime I play it.
Yup. I go for it less than any other DBT record.

Keep in mind that the DBT album I find the least enjoyable is an album I still find pretty enjoyable.

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American Band will have a hard time ever cracking top 3 territory for me simply because I don't enjoy the current lineup's "sound" as much as do past iterations. I prefer the 3 guitar sound and the pedal steel sound over today's sound, which has too much piano for my liking. Heat Lightning marked a change in Patterson's way of arranging songs (IMO) that doesn't push my buttons like older albums do.
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Hell I rank everything:

1. The Dirty South
2. Decoration Day
3. American Band
4. Southern Rock Opera
5. A Blessing & A Curse
6. Pizza Deliverence
7. English Oceans
8. The Big To Do
9. Go Go Boots
10. Ganstabilly
11. Brighter Than Creations Dark

Oddly enough my least favorite album contains The Righteous Path which is probably my favorite DBT song.
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Kudzu Guillotine wrote:
Tequila Cowboy wrote:To me EO ushered in this new era of the band from a recording standpoint and American Band really improved on that excellent record.
I'm not sure that I've thought of it that way but agreed. I'm also thankful to have it so nicely documented on It's Great To Be Alive. I love breaking out Alabama Ass Whuppin' every so often to get some idea of just how much the Truckers' sound has evolved over the years. My last show was at Cat's Cradle almost a year ago. The last few times I have seen them in general, I would put on a par with my favorite shows I saw in the early to mid-00's. The shows back then were raw and rambunctious but the ones they put on now are no less visceral, even if they are a bit more refined. This long into most bands careers, the cracks start to show. Not so with the Truckers, they continue to get better. That's a pretty fucking rare feat in rock n' roll. I'm eternally grateful to have been along for a fairly sizable chunk of the ride.
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Zip City wrote:American Band will have a hard time ever cracking top 3 territory for me simply because I don't enjoy the current lineup's "sound" as much as do past iterations. I prefer the 3 guitar sound and the pedal steel sound over today's sound, which has too much piano for my liking. Heat Lightning marked a change in Patterson's way of arranging songs (IMO) that doesn't push my buttons like older albums do.
Very strange...............






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I'll bite

The Dirty South
Decoration Day
Southern Rock Opera
Brighter Than Creations Dark
American Band
Gangstabilly
Go Go Boots
Pizza Deliverance
A Blessing & A Curse
English Oceans
The Big To Do

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I'll play too. Strictly from a current, subjective studio recording perspective.

1) Decoration Day
2)The Dirty South
3) American Band
4)Southern Rock Opera
5) Brighter Than Creation's Dark
6) Pizza Deliverance
7) A Blessing A Curse (Absence has made the heart grow fonder for this once cellar dwellar)
8) Go Go Boots
9) EO
10) Gangstabilly
11) The Big To Do (A damn fine catalog cellar dweller)


P.S. I know that its not the task at hand, but I'd find it pretty fun to throw the Isbell and Hood solo albums into the ranking mix as well some time.

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1. Southern Rock Opera
2. The Dirty South
3. Decoration Day
4. Pizza Deliverance
5. A Blessing and a Curse
6. American Band
7. Brighter Than Creations
8. Go Go Boots
9. Gangstabilly
10. The Big To Do
11. English Oceans

I had never done that and it was an interesting thing to process.

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Based on what CD I would stick in right now:

1) TDS
2) DD
3) AB
4) ABAAC
5) EO
6) SRO
7) BTCD
8) TBTD
9) GGB
10) PD
11) G

Some of the reasoning is that the first 2 albums don't have enough Cooley and Patterson's singing wasn't what it became. An example is The Living Bubba, which may be my favorite DBT song. I'd listen to the recent live album version everyday over the studio album. Re TBTD and GGB, I am not a big fan of Shonna's song, Cooley was from what I understand going through some writers block and they probably should have pruned the albums to one. SRO may have the finest material and may well be number 1 if the current lineup were to re-record the album as the songs are now played. Some of the versions on the album don't do justice to how great the songs became. Women Without Whiskey is probably the best example. Also, Rob Malone's stuff is kind of a throw away. AB and EO rank high to me because I enjoy the nearly equal Hood-Cooley split and to my ear this is the greatest sounding version of the band.

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Some of the reasoning is that the first 2 albums don't have enough Cooley and Patterson's singing wasn't what it became. An example is The Living Bubba, which may be my favorite DBT song. I'd listen to the recent live album version everyday over the studio album.
AAW is my favourite released version of that.

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disgruntledgoat wrote:
Some of the reasoning is that the first 2 albums don't have enough Cooley and Patterson's singing wasn't what it became. An example is The Living Bubba, which may be my favorite DBT song. I'd listen to the recent live album version everyday over the studio album.
AAW is my favourite released version of that.
While I enjoy the first 2 albums the AAW versions are so much better.(and I don't miss the pedal on that album) The same with SRO, live versions of those songs are so much better.
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I listened to Spotify's version of American Band for the first time the other day. Some the album's 11 tracks on Spotify appear to be the live versions of the songs, whilst others are the studio versions of the songs. Anyone know why Spotify have the album tracks - some live, some studio - mixed like this?

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Bon Scott's AC/DC wrote:I listened to Spotify's version of American Band for the first time the other day. Some the album's 11 tracks on Spotify appear to be the live versions of the songs, whilst others are the studio versions of the songs. Anyone know why Spotify have the album tracks - some live, some studio - mixed like this?
Any examples? Granted, Spotify has been the most common way I've listened to this album since it's a bit more portable than vinyl, but nothing has changed to my ears. I'm 98% sure they're all studio versions (well, we know how "Filthy and Fried" was recorded, but album versions nonetheless).
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Mundane Mayhem wrote:
Bon Scott's AC/DC wrote:I listened to Spotify's version of American Band for the first time the other day. Some the album's 11 tracks on Spotify appear to be the live versions of the songs, whilst others are the studio versions of the songs. Anyone know why Spotify have the album tracks - some live, some studio - mixed like this?
Any examples? Granted, Spotify has been the most common way I've listened to this album since it's a bit more portable than vinyl, but nothing has changed to my ears. I'm 98% sure they're all studio versions (well, we know how "Filthy and Fried" was recorded, but album versions nonetheless).
For me, four songs are live versions, you can even hear the crowd in the background whooping. 1) Ramon Casiano, 2) Guns of Umpqa, 3) What It Means, 4) Baggage.

I don't have a paid subscription to Spotify (I only listen to it occasionally), so I don't know if that's the reason four track of the album for me are live versions?

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Bon Scott's AC/DC wrote:
Mundane Mayhem wrote:
Bon Scott's AC/DC wrote:I listened to Spotify's version of American Band for the first time the other day. Some the album's 11 tracks on Spotify appear to be the live versions of the songs, whilst others are the studio versions of the songs. Anyone know why Spotify have the album tracks - some live, some studio - mixed like this?
Any examples? Granted, Spotify has been the most common way I've listened to this album since it's a bit more portable than vinyl, but nothing has changed to my ears. I'm 98% sure they're all studio versions (well, we know how "Filthy and Fried" was recorded, but album versions nonetheless).
For me, four songs are live versions, you can even hear the crowd in the background whooping. 1) Ramon Casiano, 2) Guns of Umpqa, 3) What It Means, 4) Baggage.

I don't have a paid subscription to Spotify (I only listen to it occasionally), so I don't know if that's the reason four track of the album for me are live versions?
I have a paid subscription and just listened to see if I experienced the same thing and I did not. Not sure what the deal is.
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Tequila Cowboy wrote:
Bon Scott's AC/DC wrote:
Mundane Mayhem wrote:
Any examples? Granted, Spotify has been the most common way I've listened to this album since it's a bit more portable than vinyl, but nothing has changed to my ears. I'm 98% sure they're all studio versions (well, we know how "Filthy and Fried" was recorded, but album versions nonetheless).
For me, four songs are live versions, you can even hear the crowd in the background whooping. 1) Ramon Casiano, 2) Guns of Umpqa, 3) What It Means, 4) Baggage.

I don't have a paid subscription to Spotify (I only listen to it occasionally), so I don't know if that's the reason four track of the album for me are live versions?
I have a paid subscription and just listened to see if I experienced the same thing and I did not. Not sure what the deal is.
I'm paid, too, so maybe that's the distinction. One other idea: have you downloaded live mp3s/FLACs that are being pulled into your Spotify "library"? Maybe there's some commingling going on.
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Gaetzi wrote:Pizza Deliverance is the quintessential DBT album, for my money.
I'm gonna agree with Gaetzi here.

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