New songs thread

[Cole Younger]

I loved all the new songs. I wasn't crazy about What It Means until Patterson did some clarification about it. I like it a lot better now and live it was great.

Cooley is on fire and it's great to see. Surrender Under Protest (or whatever it's called) definitely had an instant classic feel. A Confederate flag song I assume. Kind of sums up my own relationship with the subject these days.

[brett27295]

I've had a chance to listen to the recordings of the Homecoming shows (such a different experience than being there) and have really been able to focus on the music. At this point I rate the news songs in this order:

1. Ramon Casiano
2. Surrender Under Protest
3. What It Means
4. When They Banned Imagine
5. Ever South
6. Hipster Surfer Girl
7. Guns of Umpqua

I absolutely love the first 3. I didn't really care for What It Means from the few recordings I heard but I finally "got it" this weekend. Cooley is on a hot streak, between these new songs and his contributions to English Oceans this might be his best run in quite some time. I'm not really sure about tracks 4-7. I like them but I just haven't really got a good feel for them yet. I can tell you one thing, I am REALLY looking forward to September and the release of this album.

[Tequila Cowboy]

I've had a chance to listen to the recordings of the Homecoming shows (such a different experience than being there) and have really been able to focus on the music. At this point I rate the news songs in this order:

1. Ramon Casiano
2. Surrender Under Protest
3. What It Means
4. When They Banned Imagine
5. Ever South
6. Hipster Surfer Girl
7. Guns of Umpqua

I absolutely love the first 3. I didn't really care for What It Means from the few recordings I heard but I finally "got it" this weekend. Cooley is on a hot streak, between these new songs and his contributions to English Oceans this might be his best run in quite some time. I'm not really sure about tracks 4-7. I like them but I just haven't really got a good feel for them yet. I can tell you one thing, I am REALLY looking forward to September and the release of this album.

I'm pretty much with you here. Those first three are great but after hearing Ever South several times now (starting a couple of times solo in Little Rock) I think it's one of Patterson's very best songs.

[Smitty]

At this point, when is Cooley not on fire? I'd say Patterson's on top of his game as well. This should be killer.
Hard to really rank based on what we've heard so far, but this is my rough take right now:
Ramon
Guns of Umpqua
Surfer
Surrender
Ever south
Imagine
What it means

I wonder if that heroin song of Hood's is on this one?

[John A Arkansawyer]

I've had a chance to listen to the recordings of the Homecoming shows (such a different experience than being there) and have really been able to focus on the music. At this point I rate the news songs in this order:

1. Ramon Casiano
2. Surrender Under Protest
3. What It Means
4. When They Banned Imagine
5. Ever South
6. Hipster Surfer Girl
7. Guns of Umpqua

I absolutely love the first 3. I didn't really care for What It Means from the few recordings I heard but I finally "got it" this weekend. Cooley is on a hot streak, between these new songs and his contributions to English Oceans this might be his best run in quite some time. I'm not really sure about tracks 4-7. I like them but I just haven't really got a good feel for them yet. I can tell you one thing, I am REALLY looking forward to September and the release of this album.

I'm pretty much with you here. Those first three are great but after hearing Ever South several times now (starting a couple of times solo in Little Rock) I think it's one of Patterson's very best songs.

I had the same reaction to it, but I don't think it'll really catch on with people till they have a studio version. It's a song where the lyrics do pretty much all the work.

There is one tiny thing about Surrender Under Protest/Compelled But Not Defeated which I'm probably the only person to notice, assuming it is actually there: When I hear the melody on the sixth line of the verses, I hear "As the failing light illuminates the mercenary's creed". It's not the same melody, and it's the only part of the melody that is similar, but it's just close enough that I hear it. Maybe it's the number of times I listed to that record as a kid and long thereafter. I'll be curious if this rings a bell with anyone else.

[John A Arkansawyer]

At this point, when is Cooley not on fire? I'd say Patterson's on top of his game as well. This should be killer.
Hard to really rank based on what we've heard so far, but this is my rough take right now:
Ramon
Guns of Umpqua
Surfer
Surrender
Ever south
Imagine
What it means

I wonder if that heroin song of Hood's is on this one?

Which one is that? We also have some other recent material floating around: The Distance, Tough To Let Go (my favorite of Patterson's new songs), Flight 218 to Denver, and (I think this is new, but I could be wrong) Hell-Forged and Heaven Sent (which I still haven't heard, dammit).

[Duke Silver]

I had to turn off Ever South because I really wasn't feeling it and didn't want to poison the well before hearing the album version like I did with a bunch of the GGB songs.

Haven't heard the Guns of Umpqua or that Imagine song yet and I think I'll keep it that way. Ramon Casiano and Surrender Under Protest more than whetted my appetite for the next album.

[brett27295]

At this point, when is Cooley not on fire?

He had to rework a few old songs during the Big To Do/Go Go Boots era. That was a bit of a dry spell and something he freely talked about at the time. Other than that? He's been on a pretty good hot streak since he started writing songs in my opinion.

[beantownbubba]

I had to turn off Ever South because I really wasn't feeling it and didn't want to poison the well before hearing the album version like I did with a bunch of the GGB songs.

Haven't heard the Guns of Umpqua or that Imagine song yet and I think I'll keep it that way. Ramon Casiano and Surrender Under Protest more than whetted my appetite for the next album.

Yeah, I'm currently debating whether to seek out the new songs on the HC recordings for repeated listening or to wait for the album, or at least the leaked album I think waiting may be the way to go (while acknowledging that I'll presumably hear at least some of them live during the upcoming tour).

[Tequila Cowboy]

I had the same reaction to it, but I don't think it'll really catch on with people till they have a studio version. It's a song where the lyrics do pretty much all the work.

I tend to agree there. I was very drawn to words when he played it acoustically so it had already hit hard by the time I heard the band play it. Still I think those are some of his very finest lyrics and very southern which makes me laugh after all the giving up catfish for tofu nonsense of last year.

[Cole Younger]

I had forgotten about 218 to Denver. I wonder if that's going to be part of the new one. I kind of get the feeling The Distance won't be. Patterson made a comment at some point that was a song for the fans. That doesn't mean it won't be but Cooley made the exact same comment about Drining Coke and Eating Ice. Speaking of that one, somebody once posed the question here that they wondered if that song became Ramon Casiano. I think it might have.

The new one is shaping up to be really strong.

[John A Arkansawyer]

I had forgotten about 218 to Denver. I wonder if that's going to be part of the new one. I kind of get the feeling The Distance won't be. Patterson made a comment at some point that was a song for the fans. That doesn't mean it won't be but Cooley made the exact same comment about Drining Coke and Eating Ice. Speaking of that one, somebody once posed the question here that they wondered if that song became Ramon Casiano. I think it might have.

The new one is shaping up to be really strong.

The one I'm most interested in is Tough To Let Go. That's a very special song. The story of how it came to be is also pretty special. It might fit the new one or it might be a solo number. But I want it in some form.

[John A Arkansawyer]

I had forgotten about 218 to Denver. I wonder if that's going to be part of the new one. I kind of get the feeling The Distance won't be. Patterson made a comment at some point that was a song for the fans. That doesn't mean it won't be but Cooley made the exact same comment about Drining Coke and Eating Ice. Speaking of that one, somebody once posed the question here that they wondered if that song became Ramon Casiano. I think it might have.

The new one is shaping up to be really strong.

The one I'm most interested in is Tough To Let Go. That's a very special song. The story of how it came to be is also pretty special. It might fit the new one or it might be a solo number. But I want it in some form.

A thought I first had nearly a month ago just finished. Back in spring, I thought I saw a line from What It Means to Tough To Let Go. True but incomplete. That line, or maybe curve, ends at Ever South. Or so I think.

[Iowan]

i think I'm going to wait for studio versions to surface.

[ramonz]

Word on the street is that the boys will finally lay down Neil's Revolution Blues on the new album. Fits right in, 'tis the season. Matt reprises Rick Danko's role, Brad Levon's, Jay Ben Keith's wurlitzer piano, Cooley Neil's lead guitar, and Patterson Neil's vocals and Crosby's rhythm guitar. That's not really the word, but a man can dream.

[Smitty]

Word on the street is that the boys will finally lay down Neil's Revolution Blues on the new album. Fits right in, 'tis the season. Matt reprises Rick Danko's role, Brad Levon's, Jay Ben Keith's wurlitzer piano, Cooley Neil's lead guitar, and Patterson Neil's vocals and Crosby's rhythm guitar. That's not really the word, but a man can dream.

I think Patterson pulls off more NYish style lead guitar more than Cooley.

[Iowan]

Word on the street is that the boys will finally lay down Neil's Revolution Blues on the new album. Fits right in, 'tis the season. Matt reprises Rick Danko's role, Brad Levon's, Jay Ben Keith's wurlitzer piano, Cooley Neil's lead guitar, and Patterson Neil's vocals and Crosby's rhythm guitar. That's not really the word, but a man can dream.

I think Patterson pulls off more NYish style lead guitar more than Cooley.

Definitely. Murdering Osacr is dripping in it.

[ramonz]

Word on the street is that the boys will finally lay down Neil's Revolution Blues on the new album. Fits right in, 'tis the season. Matt reprises Rick Danko's role, Brad Levon's, Jay Ben Keith's wurlitzer piano, Cooley Neil's lead guitar, and Patterson Neil's vocals and Crosby's rhythm guitar. That's not really the word, but a man can dream.

I think Patterson pulls off more NYish style lead guitar more than Cooley.

Definitely. Murdering Osacr is dripping in it.

Good points. Wanted to make sure Cooley played a significant role though. Ya'll agree that Patterson would be the better RB singer?

[Clams]

Heard a few of the new songs for the first time at last night's 9:30 Club show. It was difficult to make out all the lyrics but they sounded really good and definitely politically charged. I especially liked Ramon Casiano so I googled his name today and found this article:

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/what-the ... 87405.html

I'd love to know the lyrics to the song. Anyone got them?

[Tyler]

Hell-Forged and Heaven Sent (which I still haven't heard, dammit).

[Smitty]

Heard a few of the new songs for the first time at last night's 9:30 Club show. It was difficult to make out all the lyrics but they sounded really good and definitely politically charged. I especially liked Ramon Casiano so I googled his name today and found this article:

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/what-the ... 87405.html

I'd love to know the lyrics to the song. Anyone got them?

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7033&p=272230&hilit=Casiano#p272230

[Clams]

Heard a few of the new songs for the first time at last night's 9:30 Club show. It was difficult to make out all the lyrics but they sounded really good and definitely politically charged. I especially liked Ramon Casiano so I googled his name today and found this article:

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/what-the ... 87405.html

I'd love to know the lyrics to the song. Anyone got them?

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7033&p=272230&hilit=Casiano#p272230

Ah. Thanks Smitty.

[John A Arkansawyer]

I was listening to the 3/4/16 9:30 show in search of Patterson telling his mom not to vote for Donald Trump and ran into an exceptional version of this song, which I think goes like this:

From the comfort zone of history
On the lips of trusted relatives
To the wounded fragile minds of angry youth
No sooner was it over
Than the memory made it noble
A selective lens by which to point the view

Compelled but not defeated
Surrender under protest if you must
Compelled but not defeated

If it's all you can remember
Then it's been that way forever
And for six long generations it's been told
That among the fallen was tradition
That tradition was the mission
And that the wrongness of the sin was not the goal

Compelled but not defeated
Surrender under protest if you must
Compelled but not defeated

Does the color really matter
On the face you blame for failure
All the shaming for a ... losing cause
But the victims and aggressors
Just remain each others' others
And the instigators never fight their own

Compelled but not defeated
Surrender under protest if you must
Compelled but not defeated
Surrender under protest if you must
Surrender under protest if you must

I think that's very, very close. I'm still a little uncertain about lines three and four in the last verse. This is a clear recording of a clear vocal performance. I know when I heard the first three lines clearly, it hit me like hearing it the first time did. That first time, I had to go by feel and hook; this time, I think I heard just what Mister Cooley is saying.

There may be two separate things to take away from this. The first is the depth of compassion in Cooley's lyric. It's not stupid compassion; it's the kind that sees all the costs and adds them up and yet still exists. The second is that those of us who feel some level of despair for the times we live in now can consider have reason for hope, in the long term. Look, he's saying, at this very bad cause which has reached out of an undead past and keeps on grabbing people by the throat today. Worst case scenario, if they can hold out for a century and a half, well, maybe so can you. Watch and learn.

Or maybe I overinterpret. I've been known to do that.

Anyway, if someone can point me to where Patterson says the thing, I'd be very grateful. I've got the whole show running now that I've looked Compelled but not Defeated over pretty hard. Oh, wait! I guessed right--it's at the end of The Company I Keep.

And the other thing--I don't think it's the title for the record, but if there's a bonus release of some sort, I like "Alabama Kung-Fu". Wes Freed could have a field day with that one.

[OldCloverdale]

Seeing Patterson perform "What It Means" in Selma -- as the area was preparing for the 50th anniversary of the Bridge Crossing -- was a special moment.

[ramonz]

That's a sweet poster!

[Smitty]

"Surfer" occurs at no time in the "hipster cowgirl" song... I guest the actual title is "filthy and fried". I do think its probably my favorite right now, along with Ramon and Guns of Umpqua.

[John A Arkansawyer]

"Surfer" occurs at no time in the "hipster cowgirl" song... I guest the actual title is "filthy and fried". I do think its probably my favorite right now, along with Ramon and Guns of Umpqua.

That's my fault, I think. I called it that in a list and my mistake, unsurprisingly (have I told you about getting back from Homecoming? No? Consider yourself lucky), caught on.

[Eyes Above It]

Is it time to start a new album thread? Patterson said the record is done and is coming out in September.

[Smitty]

Is it time to start a new album thread? Patterson said the record is done and is coming out in September.

umm, ain't that pretty much what this is?

[brett27295]

"Surfer" occurs at no time in the "hipster cowgirl" song... I guest the actual title is "filthy and fried". I do think its probably my favorite right now, along with Ramon and Guns of Umpqua.

Patterson confirmed on Facebook that the title is "Filthy and Fried".