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Setlists have been fair game since the dawn of time. I don't think mistakenly grabbing what one might think is a setlist off the stage necessarily makes someone a douchebag or an asshole or whatever.

Like bovine said, just print a whole stack of 'em!
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Duke Silver wrote:Setlists have been fair game since the dawn of time. I don't think mistakenly grabbing what one might think is a setlist off the stage necessarily makes someone a douchebag or an asshole or whatever.

Like bovine said, just print a whole stack of 'em!


Hmm, I'm not sure about that. I've always thought that if you wanted the setlist you asked for it either from the performer or a member of the crew if there is one. Just reaching and grabbing seems rude to me (unless of course everyone's long gone and it's just laying there).
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Duke Silver wrote:Setlists have been fair game since the dawn of time. I don't think mistakenly grabbing what one might think is a setlist off the stage necessarily makes someone a douchebag or an asshole or whatever.

Like bovine said, just print a whole stack of 'em!


Based on my interaction with the person in question, it was 100% entitled douchebaggery "imma get my free souvenir".

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Tequila Cowboy wrote:
Duke Silver wrote:Setlists have been fair game since the dawn of time. I don't think mistakenly grabbing what one might think is a setlist off the stage necessarily makes someone a douchebag or an asshole or whatever.

Like bovine said, just print a whole stack of 'em!


Hmm, I'm not sure about that. I've always thought that if you wanted the setlist you asked for it either from the performer or a member of the crew if there is one. Just reaching and grabbing seems rude to me (unless of course everyone's long gone and it's just laying there).


If there's someone around I guess the polite thing would be to ask, but most of the time it seems like it's just a piece of paper lying there on the edge of the stage while the crew packs up.
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Duke Silver wrote:Setlists have been fair game since the dawn of time. I don't think mistakenly grabbing what one might think is a setlist off the stage necessarily makes someone a douchebag or an asshole or whatever.

Like bovine said, just print a whole stack of 'em!


I kind of agree with Duke. The post makes it seem like it was done intentionally. I think it might be possible that it was done with no malice or bad intentions. Just like those Fuckers who think they might be the only person in the room that knows the words to Zip City and feel the need to sing it out as loud as possible to prove it. My last Cooley show I had to catch a ride to the Airport, hop on 2 flights(don't get me started on the walk between concourses), catch a cab to my hotel, check in, catch a cab to the venue location, find some place to eat and drink, find a cab after the show back to my hotel, sleep, get up and do it all again to get back home. MY EARS ARE MINE, KEEP YOUR GODDAMN VOCAL CORDS OUT OF THEM!

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I'm with Duke.

Of course that has more to do with this than anything:
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My wife ripped a setlist off Rich Robinson's monitor 10 minutes after everyone cleared the stage.

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Iowan wrote:I'm with Duke.

Of course that has more to do with this than anything:
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My wife ripped a setlist off Rich Robinson's monitor 10 minutes after everyone cleared the stage.


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You ask for the set list, you don't just take it. It's not yours to take.

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When the band has left the stage and there's a crumpled up, beer stained setlist under each mic stand, I've never seen any harm in taking one as a souvenir. It's not something I do at every show I attend or anything but it does occur on occasion. If I thought it would piss off someone I'd never do it. In all of my years of attending shows I've never had that experience. However, removing a laminated setlist (or guide, as it were) that appears to be the personal property of the performer. No, I wouldn't remove that or any other similar type item from a stage. That said, the last setlist I obtained, I asked for. This was the Boomer's Story performance I saw out at the Haw River Ballroom back in May. Phil Cook (of Megafaun) was kind enough to give me his personal, handwritten setlist rather than one of the dozen or so mimeographed ones littering the stage. I thought that was very kind of him.

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I tend to not get caught up in the crowd of set list beggars at live shows, it reaks of drunken desperation to me, you will find me to the side of them checking out the gear that the band plays and making mental notes (my wife knows to allow for about 15 minutes for me to have my geek moment and I know not to bore her with my geeky observations in the car ride home). That being said it's been my own personal experience that once the show is over and I've removed my gear from the stage, anything left behind that isn't of any real monetary value to me or something I'll need for the next show is fair game. I know folks like to frame set lists, especially if they can get the band to autograph them so I've got no problem with that. What I do have a problem with is folks that either nab them during set break or jump up on stage as soon as the house lights go up. It's just rude, the band doesn't come to where you work on a monday and steal papers from your desk so why would you go to their office and do the same? :x

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Me ?.....I am a pick collector. I have picks from all the guys... why I collect them I don't know... I want it on record that I never jump up on stage and steal a pick in the middle of a song.

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I'd love it if the Truckers showed up at my office on a Monday morning and started raising hell.

But reading about the Chapel Hill show, I can understand why he was pissed and why he wrote that. Homey's busting his ass all around to put on a great show for us and what he got back was a bunch of loud, rude folks talking and shouting requests at him. Someone taking his cheat sheet, while not a big deal in the grand scheme, was just the icing on the cake that particular night. I get it.

too bad the Chapel Hill crew was so rowdy.. I guess it's hit or miss with this kind of thing. Everyone in Denver was super respectful for both shows this past winter.. Who knows, maybe it was the supermoon this past wkend? The funny thing is these are people who paid money to see Cooley, it's not like they stumbled uopn some rock concert that happpened to be going on at their favorite club. To pay money to see Cooley play solo acoustic then yell shit at him and talk through the show makes no sense.
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I am constantly amazed at many people’s behaviors at shows, especially solo acoustic ones. When people shout, talk, text, film with their phones, etc. it really distracts everyone in the room, including the performer. I see these solo shows as a rare opportunity to hear different versions of many of my favorite songs and really hate when the audience makes it about them instead of the performer. I attended the show down in Santa Monica at McCabes Guitar Store and I thought that the owner/promoter that introduced the show hit the nail on the head. He gave instructions on where the exits where and that everyone needed to grab a guitar on their way out if we needed to evacuate due to fire, he got some laughs as well as everyone’s attention. Then his final words were something to the effect that everyone needed to shut up, put their phones away and take in the moment and watch and listen to the show in real time, not through the screen on their phone. I think this resonated with the crowd as everyone was respectful and courteous and it just made for a pleasant time. It is a bummer that many people need to be reminded of how to act in public; just because you bought a ticket does not make the venue your living room.
With that said, I think many people on this board get it and it shows in the posts and conversations that I read on here every day. I think the truckers have a better audience than most, glad to be a part of it.

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last night's show at The Down Home was incredible. NOBODY shouted out stupid shit. nobody talked during any song. nobody requested any song. Cooley loved and appreciated the 130 or so fans that were there. and nobody touched shit on the stage. course Mrs. Cooley grabbed up the laminates shortly after he left the stage :) he came out to the merch table shortly after and signed stuff and took pics with all of us. very enjoyable evening. hope the Grey Eagle crowd treats him the same tonight

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Lone Wolf1 wrote:last night's show at The Down Home was incredible. NOBODY shouted out stupid shit. nobody talked during any song. nobody requested any song. Cooley loved and appreciated the 130 or so fans that were there. and nobody touched shit on the stage. course Mrs. Cooley grabbed up the laminates shortly after he left the stage :) he came out to the merch table shortly after and signed stuff and took pics with all of us. very enjoyable evening. hope the Grey Eagle crowd treats him the same tonight



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I've never understood the practice of collecting set lists or autographs or many things that others seem to want as souvenirs. I would never photograph or video a show and god help you if you disrupt my experience by putting your camera in my face at one. I don't do Facebook. I prefer to look for experiences, emotional reactions, connections with interesting people, conversations, laughs and fun. I find that, for me, being preoccupied with documenting and collecting proof of these experiences just distracts me from something more substantial, enjoyable and quite frankly, memorable. However, I have a friend who works as a rare books and antiquities dealer and he was just involved in a transaction whereby someone bought an early Nirvana set lest for $11,000, so those of you who do collect set lists may be sitting on some unexpected profit. It's funny because during the time that that list was written, I was roommates with a promoter and when Nirvana passed through town, Dave Grohl used to sleep at our house. In retrospect I kind of regret not having stolen his socks or something, for investment purposes.
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Ok, burning question: I hope this is not misplaced but can anyone provide the back story on "The Stroker Ace"? Just curious about the nick name's history since I hear it 6 times a day.

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C Peters wrote:Ok, burning question: I hope this is not misplaced but can anyone provide the back story on "The Stroker Ace"? Just curious about the nick name's history since I hear it 6 times a day.


All the band members had nicknames based on Burt Reynolds' flicks; Cooley's the only one that stuck.
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Smitty wrote:
C Peters wrote:Ok, burning question: I hope this is not misplaced but can anyone provide the back story on "The Stroker Ace"? Just curious about the nick name's history since I hear it 6 times a day.


All the band members had nicknames based on Burt Reynolds' flicks; Cooley's the only one that stuck.


Please correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the original nicknames were "Buford" for Patterson, "The Devil" for Rob Malone, "Birddog" for Earl Hicks, "The EZB" for Brad and John "Sho' Nuff" Neff. I thought the only one inspired by a Burt Reynolds movie was "Stroker Ace".

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Every time I see this thread I get the old Good N Plenty commercial with the train and the song that goes "Charlie says (love that Good N Plenty) only I hear it as "Cooley says" and picture a cartoon Cooley, in black and white no less, driving the train. I'm either old or insane. Probably both.
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Tequila Cowboy wrote:Every time I see this thread I get the old Good N Plenty commercial with the train and the song that goes "Charlie says (love that Good N Plenty) only I hear it as "Cooley says" and picture a cartoon Cooley, in black and white no less, driving the train. I'm either old or insane. Probably both.


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Kudzu Guillotine wrote:Please correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the original nicknames were "Buford" for Patterson, "The Devil" for Rob Malone, "Birddog" for Earl Hicks, "The EZB" for Brad and John "Sho' Nuff" Neff. I thought the only one inspired by a Burt Reynolds movie was "Stroker Ace".


They all had decided on Burt Reynolds character names for each other at one time. I can't remember any of them except Stroker of course, but I've got it written down somewhere.
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Tequila Cowboy wrote:Every time I see this thread I get the old Good N Plenty commercial with the train and the song that goes "Charlie says (love that Good N Plenty) only I hear it as "Cooley says" and picture a cartoon Cooley, in black and white no less, driving the train. I'm either old or insane. Probably both.


I got a big time kick out of this post. I know I'm not old. So of you're crazy I'm right there with ya.
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Tequila Cowboy wrote:Every time I see this thread I get the old Good N Plenty commercial with the train and the song that goes "Charlie says (love that Good N Plenty) only I hear it as "Cooley says" and picture a cartoon Cooley, in black and white no less, driving the train. I'm either old or insane. Probably both.

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cortez the killer wrote:
Tequila Cowboy wrote:Every time I see this thread I get the old Good N Plenty commercial with the train and the song that goes "Charlie says (love that Good N Plenty) only I hear it as "Cooley says" and picture a cartoon Cooley, in black and white no less, driving the train. I'm either old or insane. Probably both.

Thanks for reading.


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Tequila Cowboy wrote:
cortez the killer wrote:
Tequila Cowboy wrote:Every time I see this thread I get the old Good N Plenty commercial with the train and the song that goes "Charlie says (love that Good N Plenty) only I hear it as "Cooley says" and picture a cartoon Cooley, in black and white no less, driving the train. I'm either old or insane. Probably both.

Thanks for reading.


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sorry Cortez


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The thread title reminds of an old thread either from this board or Nine Bullets that may or may not have been titled "Cooleyfucius Says" that included lyrics and Cooley-isms.

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Tequila Cowboy wrote:
cortez the killer wrote:
Tequila Cowboy wrote:Every time I see this thread I get the old Good N Plenty commercial with the train and the song that goes "Charlie says (love that Good N Plenty) only I hear it as "Cooley says" and picture a cartoon Cooley, in black and white no less, driving the train. I'm either old or insane. Probably both.

Thanks for reading.


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sorry Cortez

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