LastLawson wrote: I get chills up my spine everytime I hear PH sing "is in heeeeeell now".
Me too.
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LastLawson wrote: I get chills up my spine everytime I hear PH sing "is in heeeeeell now".
Tequila Cowboy wrote:John A Arkansawyer wrote:Tequila Cowboy wrote:For grins I once listened to Tommy, Quadrophenia, Zen Arcade and SRO in one sitting.
Which one of these things does not belong?
Surely you're not suggesting the great Husker Du Zen Arcade does not belong?? I'd put it ahead of Tommy and probably too close to call with the other two.
John A Arkansawyer wrote:
Something my other great teacher, John Clellon Holmes, said once about writing novels in the late twentieth century was (paraphrased from distant memory) that North American novelists were writing perfectly good, consistently safe novels, as opposed to the novelists of Latin American, who were swinging for the fences with every book, often falling flat on their faces and occasionally hitting one out of the park, and that it was the Latin American novelists who were writing the books to be remembered by the ages.
RevMatt wrote:John A Arkansawyer wrote:
Something my other great teacher, John Clellon Holmes, said once about writing novels in the late twentieth century was (paraphrased from distant memory) that North American novelists were writing perfectly good, consistently safe novels, as opposed to the novelists of Latin American, who were swinging for the fences with every book, often falling flat on their faces and occasionally hitting one out of the park, and that it was the Latin American novelists who were writing the books to be remembered by the ages.
Were you a Stegner fellow? If so, mucho respects.
Zip City wrote:The three-guitar solo (with cheering) in LTBR is the same melody line as the bass line in A&F's outro
John A Arkansawyer wrote:RevMatt wrote:John A Arkansawyer wrote:
Something my other great teacher, John Clellon Holmes, said once about writing novels in the late twentieth century was (paraphrased from distant memory) that North American novelists were writing perfectly good, consistently safe novels, as opposed to the novelists of Latin American, who were swinging for the fences with every book, often falling flat on their faces and occasionally hitting one out of the park, and that it was the Latin American novelists who were writing the books to be remembered by the ages.
Were you a Stegner fellow? If so, mucho respects.
Nope. (I wish.) Just an undergraduate hanger-on at the creative writing program at UA-Fayetteville when John taught there.
RevMatt wrote:"Zip City" is about the nerdy kid who can only find a date with a girl two years younger and two towns away.
Zip City wrote:The three-guitar solo (with cheering) in LTBR is the same melody line as the bass line in A&F's outro
Zip City wrote:RevMatt wrote:"Zip City" is about the nerdy kid who can only find a date with a girl two years younger and two towns away.
I never saw it that way. I always felt the narrator was purposely dating a girl two towns away to give himself an excuse to get out of his own town
Iowan wrote:Zip City wrote:The three-guitar solo (with cheering) in LTBR is the same melody line as the bass line in A&F's outro
Repeated musical themes?
Sounds pretty "opera" to me.
Iowan wrote:Zip City wrote:RevMatt wrote:"Zip City" is about the nerdy kid who can only find a date with a girl two years younger and two towns away.
I never saw it that way. I always felt the narrator was purposely dating a girl two towns away to give himself an excuse to get out of his own town
I see it halfway. The 2 years younger was pretty damn common, as it seems that in small towns girls almost always date older guys.
The going two towns away part means that he can't get a girl 2 years younger from his own town due to his preceding reputation.
Zip City wrote:Iowan wrote:Zip City wrote:The three-guitar solo (with cheering) in LTBR is the same melody line as the bass line in A&F's outro
Repeated musical themes?
Sounds pretty "opera" to me.
Operas also have characters and a plot
Tequila Cowboy wrote:Often a loose one and Rock Operas have generally taken that path. Tommy is fairly literal but the other three we've been discussing are not. Of course an opera afficianado wouldn't allow any status to be given to Rock, opera or no so I'm not sure where any dissent may be.
Smitty wrote:there's subtle allusions to "Sweet Home Alabama" a few times in the album, I hear it most blatantly in the intro to "Birmingham" - you can also hear a little "Freebird" in the outro of "Greenville to Baton Rouge". Subtle shit like that is what separates this from most other albums.
I also think it's notable that the album starts with the car going "airborne" in "Days of Graduation". Just a brilliant fucking record - I usually don't rank it in my top 3 fav DBT albums, but it's really in a class of it's own in some ways. It was my intro to DBT, but I really didn't fully "get it" until I fell in love with Decoration Day.
Kudzu Guillotine wrote:Tequila Cowboy wrote:Often a loose one and Rock Operas have generally taken that path. Tommy is fairly literal but the other three we've been discussing are not. Of course an opera afficianado wouldn't allow any status to be given to Rock, opera or no so I'm not sure where any dissent may be.
I just hope we never see this shit on Broadway ala the Who or Green Day...
Zip City wrote:Iowan wrote:
I see it halfway. The 2 years younger was pretty damn common, as it seems that in small towns girls almost always date older guys.
The going two towns away part means that he can't get a girl 2 years younger from his own town due to his preceding reputation.
I don't think a guy too nerdy to get a girl in his hometown would say something like "I don't know why I put up with your shit when you don't put out"
Iowan wrote:Zip City wrote:[
I see it halfway. The 2 years younger was pretty damn common, as it seems that in small towns girls almost always date older guys.
Iowan wrote:LastLawson wrote: I get chills up my spine everytime I hear PH sing "is in heeeeeell now".
Me too.
This thread kicks all kinds of ass. Not only dime's excellent presentation, but Kudzu's essential gap-filling goodies. Great stuff all around.
beantownbubba wrote:
Zip, of course it's an opera. It says so right in the title.
Zip City wrote:beantownbubba wrote:
Zip, of course it's an opera. It says so right in the title.
I bet you were VERY disappointed by Naked Lunch